"Indian education" for all in Montana schools

[MTSilvertip]

Originally Posted by magoomafoo

Back to the subject. The Indian Education requirement bestowed upon Montana schools seems to me to be 50% a racism issue and 50% a request from Montana Native Americans for Indian education to be required. I recall when it first started a statement from a Tribal Leader...something about how Non-Native Americans were ignorant to Native lives and pushed for a required class. Don't remember the whole thing but there's nothing wrong with it. My kids have developed a general interest in past Native American history. Anything to broaden the little minds!

I don't have a problem with the kids being taught about Montana History, including the Indian tribes that live here and their culture. I would like a fact based program that looks at the history, not the modern politics as applied to history approach.

If the material is factual instead of politically biased, it could really benefit them, but past experience with the public schools has not made me confident that real information will be imparted.

When I was a kid, we had some excellent classes on the Indian tribes in the area, and had guest speakers from the tribes come in and speak of the customs and traditions and how they lived, it was really great information I have found usefull all my life.

If they could model a curriculum like that again, I would wholeheartedly support it.

Having seen the way the Helena school district has tried to sneak agenda driven propaganda into the schools in the past couple of years, I don't hold out a lot of hope.

[Reziac]

Could be that MT's gov gets high ratings because so many others are so much worse... like Moonbeam Brown in CA (didn't they learn their lesson with his first round??!) Negative aspects he may have, but compared to what MT could have as a governor... he's bloody wonderful.

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by MTSilvertip

I don't have a problem with the kids being taught about Montana History, including the Indian tribes that live here and their culture. I would like a fact based program that looks at the history, not the modern politics as applied to history approach.

If the material is factual instead of politically biased, it could really benefit them, but past experience with the public schools has not made me confident that real information will be imparted.

When I was a kid, we had some excellent classes on the Indian tribes in the area, and had guest speakers from the tribes come in and speak of the customs and traditions and how they lived, it was really great information I have found usefull all my life.

If they could model a curriculum like that again, I would wholeheartedly support it.

Having seen the way the Helena school district has tried to sneak agenda driven propaganda into the schools in the past couple of years, I don't hold out a lot of hope.

This is precisely what bothers me about adding some such "agenda" to school curricula. Will it be factual, or will it be some disgruntled group's propaganda? I think it's great to teach about all the aspects of history (and it's important to know about the small events of history as well as the great ones); it's not so good to whitewash some group's history because now they view themselves as put-upon, which unfortunately is what tends to happen when it's added Because It's The Politically Correct Thing To Do.

[jasper12]

Let's just eat some fry bread, and call it good.

Actually, my kids used to come home, with a great deal of "white guilt" heaped on them, about taking away Indian land, and keeping Africans as slaves...sorry, I did not do it, and neither did my kids. It happened, it was bad, sorry, but move on...kids don't need the guilt trip.

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by jasper12

Let's just eat some fry bread, and call it good.

Exactly! Let's share some culture, try each other's favourites, get drunk together, go bowling, uh... like normal people with no chips on our shoulders. Hand me that sizzlin' piece of fry bread.

[ursa22]

Originally Posted by MTSilvertip

So much for this discussion, we have gone from the ridiculous into the absurd.

Why impeach him? He only has a couple months left in office

I have yet to see him campaign for his replacement, yet he has time to enter agreements with the state employee unions, (which have no validity because only the legislature can approve contracts and won't convene until he is out of office),
He is proposing stuff like in your article, again, worthless because the next governor coming in has no obligation to follow what he says.


Schwitzer has done some good things, like signing the firearms bill where Montanan's could build guns, and as long as they are only sold in the state to state residents, are not subject to federal oversight, and voting to open the Otter Creek coal beds to development, but the guy is a camera hound.

Anything BS does is to benefit BS and only BS.

The most dangerous place to find yourself in Montana isn't between a sow Grizzly and her cubs, it is finding yourself between king brian and a TV camera.

It really doesn't matter what he does for the next few months, he is term limited out and the next governor will take the office and king brian will have to find another job.

So, you figure his replacement is going to be a Democrat? You must not have kids in the public schools, Indian Education For All was signed into law in 1999, Schweitzer can't take credit for proposing it. That was during the Racicot-Martz reign. -Can't agree more about going from the ridiculous to the absurd. http://www.kfbb.com/news/local/Repre...146022275.html "Republican Representative seeks support to impeach Schweitzer"
As for the "Indian education for all" issue, My Dad thinks it means that Schweitzer is going to send all the white kids to government run boarding schools