What do u think about native americans? (catholic schools, casinos)

[jimj]

Y'all have now been annointed by joejoe, this means we all get to start fresh in the new year!

[JoeJoeMan]

My new year's res' - a diversity free america - one of all and all for one - we are all the same -


Here you wanna shot a hole right thru that 'diversity' theory -

If our country's strength is our diversity (you've all heard that one) what does that say about native americans ? Is that why they lost their country - a lack of diversity........

Before you take me wrong - that ain't my view - it's just a point to expose the stupidy and racist undertones of that diversity crap.

[Drover]

Uhm.... the native tribes aren't exactly culturally homogenous....

[jimj]

Sounds kind of like the more diverse we are encouraged to be the farther apart we'er growing......

[GLS]

Originally Posted by jimj

Sounds kind of like the more diverse we are encouraged to be the farther apart we'er growing......

For the etymologists in the crowd:

"Diversity" 1. the condition of being different or having differences
2. an instance or a point of difference

Makes it kind of hard to understand how more "diversity" would bring us closer together.

[JoeJoeMan]

The sooner we forget all this "I'm special", "We're all special" the better off we'll all be.
I can't speak for native americans, but I'm sure that kind of propoganda gets directed at them, which I feel is to bad.
I think us old people for the most part can see through this phoney crap the Thought Police have been feeding us for the last 20 years, but the poor kids coming up probably believe all that crap.
I'm sure a good study could go back prove that all this warped thinking can be linked back to all the psychotic drugs these 'feel good' type people consumed back in the 60s.
Once again I only wish the natives americans the best as I do for everyone, but I'd advise them all especially the young ones not to buy into any of this 'special' 'diversity' crap.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by JoeJoeMan

The sooner we forget all this "I'm special", "We're all special" the better off we'll all be.
I can't speak for native americans, but I'm sure that kind of propoganda gets directed at them, which I feel is to bad.
I think us old people for the most part can see through this phoney crap the Thought Police have been feeding us for the last 20 years, but the poor kids coming up probably believe all that crap.
I'm sure a good study could go back prove that all this warped thinking can be linked back to all the psychotic drugs these 'feel good' type people consumed back in the 60s.
Once again I only wish the natives americans the best as I do for everyone, but I'd advise them all especially the young ones not to buy into any of this 'special' 'diversity' crap.

Unfortunately you're correct, the kids are fed that everybody is "special" crud and most europeans were/are evil. I would agree this is a direct morphing if you will of the "we" generation of the 60's.
A little off the subject but I thought this was great, if I heard this correctly it's a quote from Tom Brokaw: "The young people of the 60's, a people that would go to a concernt and inhale,drink or put in their mouth anything anyone gave them without question. These are now the same people you see at the health food stores, looking through their byfocals reading the ingredient labels on every package before they buy it." Quite telling I think. I believe that most of us "older" people (above 45) were willing to put up with this feel good crud to a point but I think that point was hit not long ago and you're starting to see blow back. I think the final straw was the immigration debate and I think it lit a candle that shed light on exactly how uncaring we've been about our home and that it's time to do some maintenance on the structure before it falls down.
I'm starting to see parents tell their kids things other than what the schools try to drill into them every day (that everyone's special) and hear people say enough is enough of this feel good stuff, life is hard.

You will notice that the Indian gaming compact that was in battle between the nation and the govenor went from front page "oh my god" the sky is falling to exactly nowhere in the paper. You'll also notice it was never settled. I think that it's the first time in quite a while that a stalemate has lasted this long but do wish they'd go back to the negociations.

[JoeJoeMan]

Well jimj I seriously do hope you are correct in that all this 'feel good' nonsense is coming to an end. I think that it actually has had a negative effect on some ethnic/cultural groups such as the native americans, for a whole host of reasons.
Funny but, I'd say the white man's TV has probably done more harm to native americans than the railroads. ......."Whiteman speak with forked tongue"........hey I couldn't agree more

[mtnmed]

Originally Posted by florida southerner 3

What's aggravating to me is the fact that people still refer to it as Indians vs. the White man. First of all, I've seen "Indians" that are every bit as White as someone of White Eurasian ancestry. White is White, regardless of ancestry. This may come as a shock to most of you, but the "Indians" of the Americas are in all actuality and truthfulness an Ancient Mulatto formed from the mixing of Blacks and Whites way back in the Ancient times starting around 4,000 years ago. There has been much language, genetic, and migratory pattern research that sheds much light on this.

Migration to the American continents and the Caribbean pretty much ceased around 200 AD and the American continents were all but forgotten totally, particularly in Dark Age Europe. Since around 2000 plus BC, Blacks, Whites, and Mulattos have been sailing and island hopping across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans to the Americas. True, the Bering Land Bridge was also an avenue of migration, but not the only one as many believe! Blacks, Whites, and Mulattos, mixed even more as time went on in the Americas. When Colombo arrived and "discovered" America nearly 1,300 years later in 1492 AD, these peoples had been moving around, migrating, intermingling, warring, and so forth. When these predominantly White explorers from Spain, Italy, Portugal, France, Britain, and the Netherlands saw these "Indians" they, by then were largely Mixed peoples. However, prior to the slave trade, Black "Indian" tribes were witnessed by early explorers in what is today the Deep South. There were also White "Indian" tribes witnessed by early explorers out West and in what is today northern Georgia.

Again, "Indian," "Native American," or even the more accurate term "Aboriginal American" are not races of people! Indians are from India, period! Native Americans are anybody born and raised to nationals of America in America regardless of race or ancestry!

I realize this might not fit or jive with what you've been taught, your personal axes to grind, personal biases, or political egendas to manipulate, but facts are facts whether agreed with or not, and there's plenty more where this came from. I hope you found this informative and of some help.

Moderator cut: not appropriate You show me one study that links any native american language with any african or european or asian language. And I am not talking about loan words from french furtrappers and such. There was never any DNA proof of an"Black" native americans pre-Columbus nor evidence of "White" Native americans. You are Moderator cut: not appropriate spouting theories that have been around for a long time. How come Lewis and Clark in 1805 never encountered any of these Mulatto people you keep carrying on about. You offer no proof except for the supposed third hand accounts from the 1500's. If you ever encountered a group of Native Americans from different tribes some on average can be darker complected then others. We can't help that everyone claims to be Native American even of they are only 1/16 that is there choice. North American Tribes have there own languages, culture and lands. The U.S. chose to deal with them as Nations back in the 1800's. Be angry with the U.S. leaders of that time there the ones that chose that course. The U.S. is based on the respect for law in part and that is why the treaties are respected today.

[skygal12]

Build a casino like the rest of them - seems to work and they are making bucks!!! And, they give a portion of the profits to the residents of the Reservation.