Info on Indian Reservations (Browning: house, tax, moving)

[jimj]

Originally Posted by glacierparkinc.

I was born in Browning and raised in Havre and Babb, the people of Brownings only shot is tourism and if people are afraid of indians how are we ever going to prosper. I truly believe that if you were to stop to gas up and engage in conversation you would be pleasently surprised by how everyone is open, curious and most of all comical. Please people enough is enough you do not have to fear browning. Montanans have a lot to learn about humanity.

Does learning about humanity mean learning that quite a few of the residents of Browning/cut bank regularly come to Kalispell and C-Falls by the car load to buy stuff driving half drunk relating (laughing) how they hit the guardrails all the way here and how they're going to stop at every casino/bar all the way back (at night btw)?
Does learning about humanity mean while minding your own business at the waterslides trying to have a good time having a whole group from browning/cut bank shove your stuff out of the way and dare you to say anything because "they" want your spot on the grass?
How about being called racist because you won't give their son seconds and thirds on food in the school cafeteria when no one else is getting it. How about someone who trys to get you fired because you won't give their child triple portions of one food item because there wouldn't be enough for the other kids but you're a racist.
I could go on and on and it gets worse on the res if your white.
Look, we can all agree that indians got a raw deal 100-200 years ago but that was then and this is now, when do the residents start taking responsability for their own fate?.
Respect flows both ways and the "entitlement" attitude gets people nowhere but angry and needs to stop.

[rickers]

[quote=glacierparkinc.;7226851] the people of Brownings only shot is tourism and if people are afraid of indians how are we ever going to prosper. /QUOTE]

If you really think that this portion of your post is true then you are part of the problem. If the Blackfeet want tourists to visit and spend money they are doing a pis-poor job at making the reservation attractive to the tourists who have money to spend. Lowering the price of a non tribal fishing permit would be a good start. I'll do most of my fishing off reservation or go to the wonderful Flathead lake on C.S.K. lands, see picture link below.



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[Reziac]

Originally Posted by rickers

If the Blackfeet want tourists to visit and spend money they are doing a pis-poor job at making the reservation attractive to the tourists who have money to spend. Lowering the price of a non tribal fishing permit would be a good start. I'll do most of my fishing off reservation or go to the wonderful Flathead lake on C.S.K. lands, see picture link below.

How much do they charge, anyway? how does it compare to a state fishing license?

High fees and high taxes (especially on business) are invariably a mistake. They drive away both tourists and businesses. You make a LOT more money from generating regular employment by being business-friendly (which also means tourist-friendly) than you EVER will with fees and taxes on "outsiders".

City of Palmdale CA made that sort of mistake a few years back. Lockheed wanted to expand its works here, which would have employed about 10,000 people (both during construction and as regulars afterward -- at the time that would have been almost a third of the working-age population). Palmdale said, "Sure! Just pay this $17,000 permit fee, and we'll get right on it." Lockheed said FY if you're that petty-greedy, and put their expansion in their existing facility in Georgia instead. And that's several MILLION dollars in various revenues, not to mention a desperately-needed employment boost, that Palmdale lost because they were more interested in short-term fees than in long-term benefits.

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by jimj

Look, we can all agree that indians got a raw deal 100-200 years ago but that was then and this is now, when do the residents start taking responsability for their own fate?. Respect flows both ways and the "entitlement" attitude gets people nowhere but angry and needs to stop.

I totally agree, and this is true regardless of who the "oppressed people" were. At some point every ethnic group on earth was someone else's victims -- that's just the way it was. Should we all be angry for our ancestors' sakes forever?? Should we all be guilty for our ancestors' deeds forever?

(If so, the Iroquois have a lot to answer for, having exterminated a number of other tribes... it ain't just European whites who could give someone a raw deal.)

[seven of nine]

Iroquois, along with the Huron and the Mohawk.

[rickers]

I think the Blackfeet charge $65. for a season fishing permit for non tribal members.

[prairiechicken]

I agree with rickers and allforcats. I am an american indian and I tell you they were just as mean to me as they would be to caucasians. In my opinion it is a very scary place to drive through.

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by rickers

I think the Blackfeet charge $65. for a season fishing permit for non tribal members.

Compared to $24 for a state resident annual license, or $60 for nonresident. Requirements & Fees - Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks

$65 seems designed to discourage non-tribal fishing. Well, I guess most of us can find somewhere more economical to fish.

Side thought: Does it apply to fulltime reservation residents who aren't tribal members??

[rickers]

I thought it was $50 but an outfitter told me it was $65. I'm not clear on the details, I couldn't get anyone from the tribes to answer today and the tribes website does not have any recreation info. so I called an outfitter. I like the combo State/Tribal Licence that you can get for the Entire state including the C.S.K. lands. It pretty cheap if you live on the Rez.

[jarsmom]

So lets try out this thought for a sec or two.
How can you critize our ancestors for their treatment of native americans, then
turn around,and do the same thing to the current residents when you richies move
in by the swarms,drive up property taxes and displace people who have been there
for generations. Ya cant because that would make you a hypocrite. Not saying what happened is ok, but displacing the current aint either just so some one can
have a place to "summer"