The Montanan's problem with outsiders moving in.. (Big Timber: sales, apartment)

[MontanaGuy]

I haven't checked my home state of Montana for awhile on the forum and I see there's the usual complaints about people moving into Montana. There are literally millions of people who move from state to state and in fact I just moved again last month to Nashville, Tn. It's interesting to note that there are more Montanans moving to other states than there are people from those states who are moving to Montana but I guess the complainers about the newcomers think that's ok are maybe they're not even aware of it. The census bureau has very detailed data about those numbers. I don't think it's anything to become alarmed about, it's just a part of American society and how people tend to relocate alot more than they used to. I actually enjoy having a total change of scenery from time to time and after living in many parts of the western states I decided to live in the south. It makes life more interesting and at this point in my life I'm very glad I didn't end up being a disgruntled "native" who spent his whole life in the same place and often in the same rut. Don't get me wrong, I love Montana and it will always be home but people need to adjust to life in the twentyfirst century.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by MontanaGuy

I haven't checked my home state of Montana for awhile on the forum and I see there's the usual complaints about people moving into Montana. There are literally millions of people who move from state to state and in fact I just moved again last month to Nashville, Tn. It's interesting to note that there are more Montanans moving to other states than there are people from those states who are moving to Montana but I guess the complainers about the newcomers think that's ok are maybe they're not even aware of it. The census bureau has very detailed data about those numbers. I don't think it's anything to become alarmed about, it's just a part of American society and how people tend to relocate alot more than they used to. I actually enjoy having a total change of scenery from time to time and after living in many parts of the western states I decided to live in the south. It makes life more interesting and at this point in my life I'm very glad I didn't end up being a disgruntled "native" who spent his whole life in the same place and often in the same rut. Don't get me wrong, I love Montana and it will always be home but people need to adjust to life in the twentyfirst century.

Keep the light on, we'll be headed to Knoxville area as soon as we can sell here.

[MontanaGuy]

jimj wrote:

Keep the light on, we'll be headed to Knoxville area as soon as we can sell here.

Good luck with the move. There's some beautiful areas around Knoxville.

[MOviaCA]

Wheres the proof "tons" of Californians want to come to Montana. Talk about insecure people geez.

[captjax]

I think most of the complaints about "outsiders" come from people which moved to Montana from some other place. They take on the "I'm from Montana" attitude. They are living in the state and want to close the gate so as no more newcomers arrive. Similar to Oregon in many ways.

My grandparent’s home steadied in eastern Montana in the late 1800's. My mother met my dad in college in Minnesota and moved to Kalispell where I was born. My father was in the Navy, so we traveled, a lot. But we always called Montana home no matter what driver's license we had in our pockets.

I married and moved to the Cabinet Mountain area and still have timberlands there. I also lived my life in the Navy and still live out of state. Each time we return, we see friends and aquatints and we still feel like we're home.

Like a previous writer summed it, it’s all about the attitude. Both residents and newcomers. If you try to blend in. Live like a Montanan and not an outsider. If you accept the ways things are and not try to change them like the place you moved from, you should be accepted as a friend and neighbor.
Like the old saying goes, "Welcome to Montana. Turn you watch back 100 years".

I doubt that we will return to Montana full time. The winters are getting longer and colder and there are other things to do rather than shovel snow half the day. However, one thing will remain unchanged. I will always be a Montanan. I will remain a Montana land owner. And I will continue to vote as a Montanan.

[FlyGuy]

I think we are going to look else where. I have feeling we will not be liked over there and reading these threads somethings come to mind either some people are trying to scare away outsiders or it really is a hard hard place to live. My husband and I talked to a real estate agent asked us why we wanted to move to montana most people want to leave. Maybe Montana people are not as nice as I thought.

[Timberwolf232]

Originally Posted by FlyGuy

I think we are going to look else where. I have feeling we will not be liked over there and reading these threads somethings come to mind either some people are trying to scare away outsiders or it really is a hard hard place to live. My husband and I talked to a real estate agent asked us why we wanted to move to montana most people want to leave. Maybe Montana people are not as nice as I thought.

If you are referring to any of my posts, please don't let me scare you off. I'm in no way trying to do that, my point has been that it's hard for "working" people to make it when the prices go up. (At least in the Bozeman/Gallatin County area.) I'm a firm believer that you can do anything when you put your mind to it, and if you want to come out and make it here, you can do it if you put your mind to it!

Please don't let a discussion on an internet forum make you mind up about how people are in any place. This is no way a representation of the collective views of people that live anywhere. Just a few that chose to chime in.

If you want to find out what it's really like, come visit!

[FlyGuy]

Some of the things that have been said on the thread have changed my mind. I don't like being tagged as a city transplant when I'm not from the city. I live in a small mountain town in northren ca. I know what it is like to shovel snow. We have hard winters here also. I don't have shopping convinces close bye. We drive an hour to do all of our major shopping.
As far as having to prove our shevles what do I have to prove that we are good hearted people, harding working and are law obeying citzens. that we would'nt come over there and commite crimes,pollute the air, trash up the land and buy it all up. To make the taxes higher and real estate so expensive no one can afford it. That sounds like what I'm trying to get away from. Maybe montana is another ca. waiting to happen.

I don't want to live in a state were my family and I will not be welcomed. I'm not afaird of the way of life there. Just of the people and what will be said to us. In all reality I do not care what people say to me. But I do care what would be said to my children and how they would be treated as outsiders. I guess that is what you would call us. I also wonder if we would be able to get jobs over there. I read the theards on here and it seems like people who are not natives of the state have a hard time getting jobs. I have heard that montana people are very friendly and nice. But I'm really being to wonder!

[gowestgal]

You should really visit before deciding where to move. Your realtor obviously knows nothing about Montana, especially Bozeman, where so many new houses are going up to accomodate all the new people moving in. Not all of Montana is represented by the 100 people that post here.

Where you live doesn't change who you are. A jerk is a jerk in MT or Rhode Island, or even on a forum. Forums are faceless and you could have 1 person w/ 10 IDs. Take this board for what it is. A good place to fuel ideas and spawn conversation but not something to base a decision as big as where to live.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by gowestgal

You should really visit before deciding where to move. Your realtor obviously knows nothing about Montana, especially Bozeman, where so many new houses are going up to accomodate all the new people moving in. Not all of Montana is represented by the 100 people that post here.

Where you live doesn't change who you are. A jerk is a jerk in MT or Rhode Island, or even on a forum. Forums are faceless and you could have 1 person w/ 10 IDs. Take this board for what it is. A good place to fuel ideas and spawn conversation but not something to base a decision as big as where to live.

Exactly! I don't know many places where you'd be accepted the minute you hit the street. To be honest it does take a while to be accepted by the old time locals but it's not like they'll sneer at you or talk bad to your family, it's more like they won't be bringing a cake to your door when you move in and though they will say hello or wave they won't be over drinking coffee in your kitchen and yaking it up right away.
As for jobs, the old days of giving jobs only to the old time people have pretty much come to an end since all of the growth. They've pretty much run out of workers to fill all of them so anyone has a good chance at a job. The one caveat is when it comes to government jobs where nepotisim still rules the day but it's like that in many places.