Gotta get outta Texas (crime rates, house, school)

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by RadioBroadcaster2008

Thanks for assuming all yankees are alike and want to do nothing but ruin your town... not all of US are like that. I am PROUD to be a Yankee (from Connecticut).. I have lived in the Northern Plains, Midwestern Plains and Southeast US.. and I HAVE NOT, DO NOT.. and WILL NEVER fit into the 3 catergories of yankees you describe.

I embrace whatever town I am in, learn their ways, embrace their culture or whatever.. and respect the difference, never forcing my way on ANYONE.

While a great many Yankees are like yourself, historically, well-heeled northerners forcing their ways on the locals have been a problem for the South (including Texas) ever since the original "Carpetbaggers" invaded the South following the Civil War.

Just goes to show there ain't nothin' new under the sun.

[jmmcnally]

I really don't blame you. Can I ask what town you live in? I am from east Texas too. I have lived 12 years there and 8 years here in central Texas. I hate the heat and the weather. lol

[ElkHunter]

Originally Posted by Reziac

While a great many Yankees are like yourself, historically, well-heeled northerners forcing their ways on the locals have been a problem for the South (including Texas) ever since the original "Carpetbaggers" invaded the South following the Civil War.

Just goes to show there ain't nothin' new under the sun.

So please, explain the delima, what is a Yankee?

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by ElkHunter

So please, explain the delima, what is a Yankee?

Historically and socially, I'd put Yankee territory as any of the original 13 colonies that were north of the Mason-Dixon line, possibly plus Ohio.

[ElkHunter]

Originally Posted by Reziac

Historically and socially, I'd put Yankee territory as any of the original 13 colonies that were north of the Mason-Dixon line, possibly plus Ohio.

Exactly! I was in a bar down in South Carolina and a guy asked me where I was from. I said, Wyoming. He said, another damn yankee. I told him he should go back and get his GED because in school they teach that the original 13 determined Yankee. Wyoming is no more Yankee then California is a Southerner. Then the fight started.

[Timberwolf232]

Originally Posted by ElkHunter

Then the fight started.

lol.. Sounds like my last weekend. but, you should see the other guy.

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf232

lol.. Sounds like my last weekend. but, you should see the other guy.

"So, how'd ya do in the fight?"

"I came in second, but the other guy came in next to last."

[SamHouston62]

Originally Posted by worldlyman

Well, I've been a Houstonian for 20 some odd years, also living in other states in between.

Blame us "minorities." Well, you can actually blame dwindling economic opportunities, low-paying jobs and higher other factors of living.

These old crust white folks...like they're the only ones with troubles.

Cool white folks stay...but all the whitebreads who can't stand "diversity"...GTFO. Your attitudes won't be missed.

I cannot help but chuckle at this diatribe. As a 7th generation Texan whose ancestors settled here under a Spanish land grant in the 1820's, I find it amusing that Mr. "Worldlyman" assumes that my critique of minorities is inherently racist. My family has lived amongst American-born hispanics for generations and I grew up with and attended school with Mexican-Americans all of my life.

Nevertheless, as anyone who has lived in the Southwest for the past generation can attest, the impact of illegal immigration - (largely from Mexico and Central America) - has very negatively impacted our cities and diminished the quality of life of the people who live here. This is largely due to the fact that Latin America is dumping their poorest and most criminal elements on the United States and saddling the American taxpayer with the burden of paying for the costs of dealing with the problems these people cause.

Knowledgeable people are already familiar with the negative impact that illegals have had on our hospitals, schools, neighborhoods, prison system, courts system, insurance system, etc. and I hardly need to recount all of that here as these problems have been well documented in the course of the ongoing debate on immigration.

Even legal immigration poses problems for America as large numbers of people have come here from places like Pakistan, India, the Middle East, etc. who do not share our history, language, legal traditions, respect for the rule of law, reverence for the constitution and democratic traditions, religion or culture. Attempts to "assimilate" these recent arrivals have largely failed and vast sections of our major cities are becoming foreign ghettos that more resemble foreign countries than American territory.

Predictably, objecting to the negative impacts of massive influxes of aliens from foreign cultures invariably fails to elicit an intelligent conversation about public policy - just diatribes and rants from people like Mr. "Worldlyman" who, lacking the ability to intelligently defend his point of view, simply spews out veiled accusations of racism at those he disagree with. The object of this silliness is to get the other person to shut up.

Well, Mr. Worldlyman - I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I will not shut up. My ancestors fought in the American Revolution and the Texas Revolution to help build America into a great nation and there are a whole lot of other Americans like me who rightly resent the fact that people of your ilk think it is your God-given right to break into this country and tear down what it took our ancestors two centuries of blood and toil to build. Frankly, I don't give a damn if you like this or not, but I can assure you that if our idiot government won't do anything about this problem, I will simply remove myself and my family from a bad situation and find someplace to live that is not yet infested with lawbreakers on a quest for reconquista.

Oh....and one more thing, "vah-toh"........the next time you want to ascribe motivations of racial prejudice to others, you might want to wipe the sweat from your fevered brow and try to restrain yourself from busting out with such tolerant terms as "whitebread," "old crust white folks" and other such open-minded, diversity-approved, terms of endearment for European descent Americans. That wasn't exactly a "Kuum-bai-yah" moment you just had here.

[Stropes]

Originally Posted by Reziac

Historically and socially, I'd put Yankee territory as any of the original 13 colonies that were north of the Mason-Dixon line, possibly plus Ohio.

In my experience (I grew up and continue to live in Illinois), many of those who use the term "yankee" are referring to anyone north of the Mason-Dixon line, regardless of their status before the Revolutionary War. I have relatives in Louisiana who refer to ME as a yankee -- and it isn't a term of endearment.

[Reziac]

Originally Posted by SamHouston62

I cannot help but chuckle at this diatribe. As a 7th generation Texan whose ancestors settled here under a Spanish land grant in the 1820's, I find it amusing that Mr. "Worldlyman" assumes that my critique of minorities is inherently racist. My family has lived amongst American-born hispanics for generations and I grew up with and attended school with Mexican-Americans all of my life.

I remember being told that calling Texas-born-and-bred descendants of the old Spanish families "Mexicans" is fightin' words... they aren't Mexicans and they don't want to be confused with 'em either!

Otherwise... HEAR HEAR!! I'm sick of being shoved out of my own country and my own culture by foreigners determined to bring the Old Country with them AND inflict it on everyone around them. Try that in THEIR country and see how far you get!

Me, I don't give a flip where you're from, if you immigrate and become an AMERICAN. In that case you're welcome aboard and howdy to ya. But DON'T come here and remain wholly a member of [insert country here] and then tell me that *I* have to change to accomodate YOUR culture.

Gee, sounds a lot like "Don't bring California to Montana and expect Montanas to like it", don't it.