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Old 05-18-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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[QUOTE: ] (from a "newbie")....The next time I see someone call themselves a "native" Montanan, I'm going to say "Oh really? What tribe?"

If you aren't an American Indian, you ain't a Montanan native. Period.[/quote]

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Originally Posted by MTSilvertip View Post
I have to take issue with this statement. To be Native means you were born here. Period.

If you wish to get technical, there is a lot of evidence that the Clovis people who predate the Folsum peoples in North America were in fact from Europe not Siberia.

There is also a lot of archiological evidence that the Aborigines from Austrailia also had a population in South America prior to the Siberian tribes moving into North America and migrating South.

The "Native Americans" would be more properly identified as Aboriginal or perhaps Mongoloid Americans vs Caucasian American or whatever hyphenation you wish to put in there, they just got here sooner than the latest European migration that started in 1492. (Yes I am aware of Cuchlainin and Leif Erikson, but their colonies didn't last).

I am 100% Native American and Native Montanan. I also have some American Indian blood in the background as well. It doesn't mean a flipping thing except I was born here and so am Native to this country and State.

This politically correct term is just another wedge issue to divide people. I feel we are better than that.
MTSilvertip..................Once again your response is polite, factual and reflects a degree of patience that some "newbies" to this state don't deserve.

I find it amusing that many of the "new arrivals" to Montana just can't seem able to lose the ..."in-your-face"... attitude that is typical of many who have moved here from some of the states in the eastern U.S.. I think (IMHO), that in many cases, a bit of jealousy may be a factor!!.. After all, not many residents of Montana can claim (accurately and justifyibly) to be "A Montana Native"............... You can certainly be proud of that status. And I know several 4th and 5th generation Montana ranch families (Native Montanans) that would "give an education" to any person who would be so "un-informed" ....(many other adjectives could apply)....as to state the above "Quote".

Your taking "the High Road" is commendable............ Ketch ya later.
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Old 05-18-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I came to Montana in 1948. Much of the rest of my family came out in the '30s and settled in Montana and Wyoming.
It is really very simple! If YOU are:
Anti-gun
Anti-hunting
anti-fishing
anti-roads
anti-off-road vehicle
Militantly vegetarian
We might not want you for a neighbor.
If you want to purchase 20 acres of brush, then put "NO TRESPASSING" signs on every other tree, and "NO HUNTING" signs on the ones in between, we might not want you for a neighbor.
If you complain about pictures of hunting (and fishing) success stories in the local paper, we might not want you for a neighbor.
If you want to make the state 80% wilderness and 20% residential, we might not want you for a neighbor.
If you think you can walk up to our front door, offer us a ridiculous price for our home, and we will jump for joy, you may be in the wrong area. (then again, if you catch us in just the right mood, we might accept your offer and laugh all the way to the bank!)
Yes, I have encountered ALL of the above!
HOWEVER,
If you can accept our state just as it is,
and you can accept us, warts and all,
and accept the fact that many of us wear boots and jeans, even to church,
and accept the fact that we just might offer you a rump roast of black bear as a "welcome, neighbor" offering,
and accept the fact that we may have RVs, boats, assorted trailers, and who knows what else, along with a horse (or cow) or two, on our place,
and accept the fact that a rusty old steel wheeled tractor and a cream separator and a walk behind plow and a windmill is not "junk" it is "yard art",
Then, WELCOME, NEIGHBOR, how was the trip? set a spell, we'll bring you a tall cold one, and you can tell us all about it!
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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There are lots of No Trespassing signs put up by real Montanans. But they're actually shorthand for:

Watch out for the bull.
Don't leave the gate open.
Beware of Dog.
Don't fall into the fishing hole, unless you can swim.
If you cut firewood here, only take the deadwood.
Don't spook my horses.
Pick up your trash.
Don't snowmobile over the winter wheat.
Attention Hunters: This is a cow, not a deer.
And so on.

If you understand this, then chances are the No Trespassing sign is not meant for you.

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Old 05-19-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: a Montana state of mind...
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Rez...your wit never ceases to make my day...
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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have a real bad local granite government out of control experiance and see how nice small town attraction becomes
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Redraven View Post
I came to Montana in 1948. Much of the rest of my family came out in the '30s and settled in Montana and Wyoming.
It is really very simple! If YOU are:
Anti-gun
Anti-hunting
anti-fishing
anti-roads
anti-off-road vehicle
Militantly vegetarian
We might not want you for a neighbor.
If you want to purchase 20 acres of brush, then put "NO TRESPASSING" signs on every other tree, and "NO HUNTING" signs on the ones in between, we might not want you for a neighbor.
If you complain about pictures of hunting (and fishing) success stories in the local paper, we might not want you for a neighbor.
If you want to make the state 80% wilderness and 20% residential, we might not want you for a neighbor.
If you think you can walk up to our front door, offer us a ridiculous price for our home, and we will jump for joy, you may be in the wrong area. (then again, if you catch us in just the right mood, we might accept your offer and laugh all the way to the bank!)
Yes, I have encountered ALL of the above!
HOWEVER,
If you can accept our state just as it is,
and you can accept us, warts and all,
and accept the fact that many of us wear boots and jeans, even to church,
and accept the fact that we just might offer you a rump roast of black bear as a "welcome, neighbor" offering,
and accept the fact that we may have RVs, boats, assorted trailers, and who knows what else, along with a horse (or cow) or two, on our place,
and accept the fact that a rusty old steel wheeled tractor and a cream separator and a walk behind plow and a windmill is not "junk" it is "yard art",
Then, WELCOME, NEIGHBOR, how was the trip? set a spell, we'll bring you a tall cold one, and you can tell us all about it!
...and if you are intolerant of people who are differant than you, glad to have you here!
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