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Old 06-30-2009, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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If there isn't a symphony in your new town, perhaps it is because nobody has ever wanted one.
That's an interesting point. If people really want a symphony, they'll find a way, even if it's just local folk blaring away on whatever instruments they have to hand.

The other thing is, small towns don't usually have a big pool of disposable income to support a symphony (or ballet, or whatever). Remember those musicians gotta eat too, and one concert a month won't pay the bills, even if it's all the local folk can afford to buy tickets for.

There used to be travelling orchestras and dance/theatre companies that hit all these small towns (a different town every night means you get paid every day, not just once a month), but that's largely died out.
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Old 03-05-2010, 04:28 PM
 
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AMEN,brother!!!!
Thank-you!!!
Having lived in MT,OR and so cal myself,I completely agree.
Plus,CA is full of people from other places,and CA does not constantly harp on why people who hate winter and like the ocean insist on moving there in droves,so that the state can no longer maintain it's infrastructure [among other issues]....

So it's doubly ironic when people say 'californians',as though that definition is readily made. CA is mainly,in the last 20 yrs,made up of folks one or two generations old,at most!!!!!

So,now let's all move on from our insular thinking and projecting blame onto others for the fact that industries and economies change...and enjoy MT. Or OR. Or Ca. Next.
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Old 03-05-2010, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Bozeman, Montana
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I was born and raised in Montana and have lived in Bozeman since 1970.
I think there is a stereotype about Bozeman that I've seen on this forum regarding people
from "outside" or LA or whatever making demands or complaints about Montana and wanting
to change it.
Sincerely, people, this is just a rumor that has been blown out of proportion. If you live here
that is not what you really experience. Sure, it has changed over time, but so has every other
town this size or larger in Montana!
There are more "Hollywood types" living around Livingston than there are in Bozeman. There are more big box stores and strip malls in Billings than there are in Bozeman.
Just my two cents.
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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My comments are in Red......I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to "be-a-smart-a$$"

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Sure, it (Bozeman) has changed over time, but so has every other
town this size or larger in Montana! Really.....hummmm, I don't think anybody will disagree with that profound statement!
There are more big box stores and strip malls in Billings than there are in Bozeman.Again, I don't think anyone will dispute this statement either................considering the current estimated population of Billings is approz 106,000 vz Bozeman at 39,000. Yea, makes sense to me.....................
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:07 PM
 
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Honestly, in all my research on my move up - for which I have spent a considerable amount of time, this is really old. REALLY OLD. I went through this in Oregon and it got old there. REALLY OLD. And Oregon is WAY, WAY ahead of Montana in this respect.
I'm just finishing up a long stay in So. California and really excited about moving to Montana. I have some family up there, we're all from Oregon. We all love Oregon. We all love Montana. I will, without a doubt, try all 50 flavors of this great nation if I so choose. To those willing to take a chance...don't over think it! And above all else - do not let the voice of the few (about six on this forum really, probably less) deter you. BYOJ is nice, anywhere, but often not reality. If I waited for a job to take me somewhere how much of my life would be wasted just waiting? My girlfriend and I would be sitting on our thumbs waiting on the discretion of someone to give us the "thumbs up you got work" sign until when? Retirement? Don't let that stop you. It's hard to get work without being there, known fact.
And every non-native American who is in Montana right now is a transplant or is a direct or indirect descendant of one. Period. I think the native american population must roll their eyes every time they hear the locals chiming in about entitlement. That applies to all of us in every state in this country for that matter. It just so happens YOUR ranch is in the way of THEIR new casino.
Respect local culture, contribute, get involved positively in your community, exercise manners (and I have met more than a few "native" Montanans who obviously skipped that lesson in life) and you will be fine. I've been there more times than I can count and not all Montanans are friendly, most are, but not all. It's the exact same socially as it is anywhere else, communities are just smaller, more spread out, and much less diverse.
So have fun and remember that some of the people who use these forums will try to misinform you or exaggerate the situation. Look past their inability to adapt and pursue your dream. They (the people so enthralled with their own bitterness) will have NO impact on your life there, none whatsoever, only you will. And very matter of factly, having lived in L.A. County for the last five years, I would love to see what hardship Montana's gonna throw my way. Hmmm...Mexican Mafia, traffic, pollution or a small percentage of angry locals? I think I'll take my chances. I've already seen her big winters and I grew up in a rural lifestyle so I know what the small uneducated redneck cliques are all about. They're such a minute percentage of the Montana population that it took more energy typing this sentence than I've ever spent worrying about them. Ho-Hum...zzz. These are probably the same people that took their 4th generation Montanan land and either sold it off or decided "hey, what a great place to put a new meth lab". These are the people that NEED to be driven out, as they have not been good stewards of the land nor have they done anything productive with it or protective of it. They're the same sort of people that will drive up into their own beautiful state's forest and decide to dump their old refrigerator on some log deck, because they apparently ran out of room in their backyard, then shoot holes in all the road signs on the way back down. Do you really need their acceptance? No. Heck no.
Now admittedly I don't have children yet to think about, or much debt, but if you really want it you'll figure it out and make it work. It's about the beauty of the land, the space, being outdoors, wildlife, and it belongs to ALL of us who have the right to call ourselves Americans. So go get it, I'll see you there.
I really hope this helps put an end to all the redundant banter that has infected these Montana threads for too long. God willing, it will infuse hope to those thinking about the life they dream of. Could be Montana for you, but you'll never know until you try.
JJ,
I would really like to know what your post says but its way too long for me to read. I got about two sentences in and lost focus. Don't write a book dude! Could you rewrite it for those of us who are a little slower than the rest? Keep it to like 75 words or less. Thank you.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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JJ,
I would really like to know what your post says but its way too long for me to read. I got about two sentences in and lost focus. Don't write a book dude! Could you rewrite it for those of us who are a little slower than the rest? Keep it to like 75 words or less. Thank you.
Hey AQHA.................... Good post........

To "JJ": Just a suggestion................if the number and variety of posts on the Montana forum related to our opinions concerning what we feel about outsiders effecting our state and our way of life.....if this bothers you......simple answer......don't read them.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Woods Bay, Montana
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Very well written, Jeremiah Johnson. People should be welcoming and not "elitist" and "cliquey". This isn't high school, folks. It's real life and real people WILL be moving into your neighborhood. To all those naysayers: Try a little friendliness and goodwill instead of your bitter, self-serving crap.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Lol, it's not that long. I try and use bullet points next time.
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:41 PM
 
Location: West Yellowstone, MT
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When being taught business writing they teach to write to a 6th grade reading level. That way the readers will stay focused on what is written.
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:14 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I agree with alot of the things being stated on these type of threads about outsiders. I'm looking to relocate later this year & it's because 1.) I hate the bigger city & suburban life. 2.) I need to find a job, there is nothing where I am at. 3.) Montana has alot of beautiful land & highway. It would be nice for a change to not get stuck in traffic everyday.
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