How to NOT ruin Montana if you move here (insurance, house)

[ladybiird]

i am from los angeles. i want to move to a small town to become an acting member of that town. i don't want another coccrete jungle i want to keep nature as it is. i want to fight to preserve what nature we have left. it is not the gun that we should be afraid of but the person behind it.the gun cannnot pull its own trigger. i agree that to many big city people want big city life in a small tomn. lif you do stay in the city. people need to adapt to the environment not adopt the environment to them.

[CatherineFrances]

Originally Posted by Reziac

I remember when the street thug's tool of choice was the baseball bat. It was every bit as effective as a gun. We didn't ban baseball because of this, and lo, the world did not end!!

The Second Amendment is not so we could defend ourselves against each other, but rather to ensure that at need, we could defend ourselves against an oppressive government.

Armed, you're a citizen. Disarmed, you're a subject.

Yes, I am very well aware of that too and that is why I mentioned TYRANT. I did not want to get into a long discussion about ALL politics, not winning our freedom from the KING using spitballs - we used GUNS and pitchforks, our Sons of Liberty - Founding Fathers, tyrants, dictators, presidents, kings, queens, nut jobs and killers in countries around the world - past and present plus some of the 'winners' (NOT!) that we have in our own country that shred and ignore the Constitution, etc.

Snippet of mine:

"Victims and/or potential victims would use the SAME TOOL or object or GUN to protect/defend THEMSELVES, their loved one, their dog, a stranger IN NEED and/or their HOME/PROPERTY from the criminal or perp or TYRANT. Think of politics now when it comes to tyrants and country!"

Being that I am into the self defense issue big time... I brought that up more into the conversation here especially for ALL people. Including women.

LII: Constitution

Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Thanks and God speed.

Catherine

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”

Samuel Adams

Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
Patrick Henry

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.
Claire Wolfe

Why Did it Have to be ... Guns?, by L. Neil Smith
Why Did it Have to be ... Guns?

-snip-

[CatherineFrances]

Originally Posted by AQHA

Catherine, I am a happily married man but I am finding myself strangely attracted to you.

My wife and I love to go out shooting. She can shoot with the best of them. With a 10/22 rifle she is down right deadly.

Very cool on your wife's shooting. Tell your wife, "You go girl!"

I am into Ruger single action revolvers, some Smith and Wesson d/a revolvers, a Glock Model 19C and Marlin lever action rifles. I had a nice Browning BL22, a Winchester 94-22 plus a 94 Trapper. They were good guns. I sold them and am into Marlins now. I scaled down some and am consolidating some more calibers now. I sold several guns and bought a couple more. I have no safe queens and never had a big collection. I was always into handguns the MOST being that is what I learned on - my late husband's 357Magnum revolver. I used handguns the MOST for the last 11 years. I bought and owned more handguns from the gitgo. I am getting into RIFLES more now - not just a bit here and there.

I was always into UP close and personal - self defense shooting the MOST. That was my goal when I started to get into the shooting sports, learning and buying my own guns 11 years ago not just using one of my late husband's guns.

Take care,

Catherine

[CatherineFrances]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

I can be liberal on some issues, but you and I see eye to eye on guns.

Freedom lovers who have a clue on true freedom, honest/sane government, fear of tyranny, the growing 'police state', shredding and ignoring the Constitution and self defense issues agree on guns.

It is not a L or R issue - it should be an American Issue for ALL people whether they personally 'like guns' or don't.

Respect goes both ways.

The Constitution/Bill of Rights is for ALL Americans whether you lean to the conservative, liberal or libertarian side.

Take care,

Catherine

[Ghengis]

Originally Posted by AQHA

I hear what you're saying and agree. I just hate that we are so hard on new people around here. I understand why its that way after seeing what has happened to Bozeman and Zootown, but it still feels so hateful. We think these new people are strange for the cars they drive and the clothes they wear but they must think we are just as strange. I know we were here first but Im not sure that gives us the right to lower ourselves to being hateful towards them.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Rogdog]

I'd like to have a nicely appointed 2500 square foot home on five to twenty acres where I can own a horse or two again, scratch around on a tractor and enjoy my life.

Do I need to pass an interview before I throw my 35 firearms in my pickup and roll up there from my current address in San Diego?

Seriously people, I don't want to bother you but, you Montanans throw more hate than anyone I've ever heard on your fellow Americans. Many of whom are refugees forced from their homeland. I was born in LA, grew up in the high desert, served six in your NAVY and stuck in San Diego for twenty years. But, sadly, I have more or lesss white skin and don't speak Mexican so am not welcome here any longer. I won't be welcome there either but at least with some land around me, I'll have a reasonable field of fire.

You guys tell me, If you wanted me to stay where I am, where were you for the last thirty years while we were screaming for help with this border issue? Now, I'm only going to live another thirty or so years. Believe me, I'm easier to put up with than 25 illegals living in a three bedroom next door. I'm not going to **** on your lawn or steal your patio furnature. I promise. I do tend to vote every time I get a chance. I hope that's ok with you folks.

[RamblinRoseRanch]

It's not just Montana. I'd say just about everywhere rural in the nation qualifies. People live where they live because there's that SOMETHING that makes it a good fit, and if they're lucky, as close to perfect for that person as possible. When outsiders* (and an outsider can come from across the country or across the county) come in and want to mess with the very thing that makes your home HOME, well, it's understandable that people get their feathers ruffled.
In simpler terms, you moved away from wherever you're from for a reason. Don't try to make your new locale a carbon copy of *back home*. Or "We don't care how you did it in _________!" Feel free to fill in the blank. :-)


* To me, an outsider is someone who radically differs from the local majority with their thoughts and actions.

[Rogdog]

So, I don't belong here and I'm an "outsider" everywhere else? Does not bode well for me then.

As I search for my new home town, Montana comes to mind for me because:

It's in the West and I'm a westerner.
It's not radical left and I'm a conservative.
It has a gun culture and I'm a gun nut.
It's large and relatively uncrowded by my standards.
It's hills are green and I'm tired of looking at brown ones.
It's far from Mexico.
I have friends there.
It has four seasons and I've never lived where it snows and want to.


What's not to recomend it?

The "we don't want no outsiders" theme that permiates this board and apparently the constant thoughts and fears of every Montanan.

Yes, there is a buzz about outsiders everywhere I go. I travel the west extensively. But the normal volume is about a '3' most places and in Montana an '11'. Heck, there's even a pile of hate for Montanans with a '4' county code on their licence plate.

It's my one and only reason to continue to look elsewhere.

Don't panic, Obama's working on taking the rest of my net worth. I may never make it out of here. heck, if you're real lucky we'll all be kidnaped, drug into Mexico and murdered.

[Redraven]

rogdog, you are making much about not much. I came to Montana in about 1948, from back East. In the eyes of many people here, I am still NOT a "Montanan". My wife is also from out-of-state. We don't make a big deal out of it. We don't tell the world "Hey, we aren't living where we were born, we moved!" We don't participate in many of the things which seem to be "normal" in the community, the symphony, the theater, school sports, etc. We don't make the rounds of the bars. We don't gamble. We pretty much do our own thing, and ignore the community at large.
We encounter no "hate". None. We don't do any hating, either.
Oh, yes, there are some people we just don't like. But, not being social gadflys, we don't have to associate with them, so no problem.
If you want to come here and establish residence, just do so. But, leave your "victim mentality" somewhere in Utah or Idaho, before you cross the Montana line. "Oh, poor me, I am a newcomer from out of state and nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I'm gonna eat some worms..."
Y'know, we want to hear that even less than we want to hear "Well, back in ******we did it this way, and it worked SO much better!" or "back in ******we had a Community Whatsit, and it was SO wonderful, it brought the people together and made us a cohesive whole!"
If you forget about being a victim, and forget about "improving" the community to match the standards of where you left, you will do fine. It won't take long at all, and the oldtimers will completely ignore you.

[seven of nine]

Originally Posted by Rogdog

So, I don't belong here and I'm an "outsider" everywhere else? Does not bode well for me then.

As I search for my new home town, Montana comes to mind for me because:

It's in the West and I'm a westerner.
It's not radical left and I'm a conservative.
It has a gun culture and I'm a gun nut.
It's large and relatively uncrowded by my standards.
It's hills are green and I'm tired of looking at brown ones.
It's far from Mexico.
I have friends there.
It has four seasons and I've never lived where it snows and want to.


What's not to recomend it?

The "we don't want no outsiders" theme that permiates this board and apparently the constant thoughts and fears of every Montanan.

Yes, there is a buzz about outsiders everywhere I go. I travel the west extensively. But the normal volume is about a '3' most places and in Montana an '11'. Heck, there's even a pile of hate for Montanans with a '4' county code on their licence plate.

It's my one and only reason to continue to look elsewhere.

Don't panic, Obama's working on taking the rest of my net worth. I may never make it out of here. heck, if you're real lucky we'll all be kidnaped, drug into Mexico and murdered.

Ha, like the observation about the 4 license plate. Come on now, if you are surviving the stuff you say you are in Cal then you are tuff enough to work your way into a Montana town. If you really want the good life then come on. Hunker down for a while, ride it out. It will work for you. Follow my advise and find the Cabelas web site. PS Nobody likes the prez over here. Hehe,,,,