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09-30-2009, 12:50 AM
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Heavily armed, easily bored, & off the medication
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Domain Name: AMERICANPOLICEGROUP.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 29-sep-2009
Creation Date: 15-may-2009
Expiration Date: 15-may-2010
In other words, the website has only existed since last May. Which is not definitive, but in this day and age does make the company's purported track record highly suspect. Netcraft has no info about their hosting, which also isn't definitive but is a little peculiar.
For some reason I'm reminded of an old movie, How To Steal A Million
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09-30-2009, 08:48 AM
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Heavily armed, easily bored, & off the medication
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Another article:
MontanaWithKids.com » American Police Force hits Hardin, Montana
Two short quotes of particular note: They had shown up earlier in the week with three darkened out Mercedes SUV’s with Hardin Police decals on their side doors. She quickly debunked the fact that they were taking over policing the town and the decals have been removed. And more important:
The APF has as of yet not been made aware that the State of Montana has a constitution that forbids the creation of a private police force.
[emphasis mine]
This whole thing smells funny to me.  This APF wants something beyond just a business opportunity. I'd guess they're looking for a ready-made mercenary training camp that will be secure against government oversight, while making them some money on the side. (They pay Hardin $5/bed/day = $1825/year per prisoner, and if they charge the going rate, it costs some state's taxpayers $25,000/year per prisoner. That's a LOT of profit -- at a guess about $8 MILLION per year if the facility is full, assuming minimal overhead. Enough to run a substantial mercenary base.)
If I crank my tinfoil hat real tight and squint at the available information, I see a subversive force (and if I close one eye, I see a mob or drug-lord operation), unwittingly funded by taxpayers.
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09-30-2009, 08:49 AM
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Hardin is seeing dollar signs and getting really excited about the money coming in.
However, they need to do due diligence on American Police Group and make sure they are legitimete, the prisoners have been afforded due diligence, the company can pay their bills, etc.
Hardin also needs to abide by public disclosure laws, which I don't think is being done since everyone's lips are sealed. Actions of the government take place in public rather than in private.
In other words, I think there is way to much unknown about APF / APG for Hardin to have signed a contract with them right now....
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09-30-2009, 11:10 AM
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Heavily armed, easily bored, & off the medication
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cedar_bluff_tree_farm
Hardin is seeing dollar signs and getting really excited about the money coming in.
However, they need to do due diligence on American Police Group and make sure they are legitimete, the prisoners have been afforded due diligence, the company can pay their bills, etc.
Hardin also needs to abide by public disclosure laws, which I don't think is being done since everyone's lips are sealed. Actions of the government take place in public rather than in private.
In other words, I think there is way to much unknown about APF / APG for Hardin to have signed a contract with them right now....
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Exactly. And the unknowns make me think Hardin is being taken for a sucker, or soon will be. It's mighty easy to con a gov't that's hard up for cash, as the redlight camera outfits have proven beyond a doubt.
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09-30-2009, 01:42 PM
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can't wait for snow.
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Two Rivers Detention Facility
Read up on it. It's a FEMA camp with foreign troops on the bases. Ever seen Red Dawn?
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10-01-2009, 08:56 AM
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From a post by BI at the Montana-Alliance-for-Liberty at Yahoogroups.com:
Hardin used to have a city police force until the late 1970's, when they
took advantage of the new Montana Constitution (circa 1972) and the
city disincorporated everything except the city council. All was turned
over to Big Horn County. Thus, the Big Horn County Sheriff's Department
is responsible for all law enforcement within the town of Hardin (Chichu'che).
At that time (late 70's) the people of Hardin assumed that non-Crow would
forever control the Big Horn County government, including the sheriff's
department. However, by the early 1990's Crow Indians became an
absolute majority both on and off the rez in Big Horn County. The all
white Hardin city council became concerned when all county offices
(including the head sheriff and county attorney) tended to be Crow
tribal members. The first Crow county sheriffs were bi-cultural and
talked English well. However, in 2006 Lawrence Big Hair (a former
student of mine) was elected sheriff. The Hardin council went bezerk
and attempted a recall just months after he took office. Big Hair is
a full-blood Crow that speaks Crow as a first language and isn't very
fluent in English. To help him out he appointed an African-American
from Great Falls to be his under-sheriff. The Hardin folks weren't wild
about that.
This spring the Hardin City Council debated the possibility of again
generating their own city police force. Despite the denials shown in
the video, I wonder if the HCC didn't secretly tell the para-fascist
private security thugs to act as real (legal) police and get the Indians
(Crow) under control, etc.? I think that Sheriff Big Hair should arrest
all the para-military folk for pretending to be legal agents of the law.
I'm sure that he could recruit numerous volunteers for extra deputy
sheriffs from Crow Agency or Lodge Grass if he needs more officers. :-)
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10-01-2009, 12:14 PM
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So is it going to be a FEMA relocation center?
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10-01-2009, 12:20 PM
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Heavily armed, easily bored, & off the medication
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan
From a post by BI at the Montana-Alliance-for-Liberty at Yahoogroups.com:
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[snippola]
Well, that certainly puts another perspective on it... not a good one I'm afraid 
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10-01-2009, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icy Tea
So is it going to be a FEMA relocation center?
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No, it won't be a FEMA relocation center.
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