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Old 01-30-2010, 07:10 PM
 
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There really doesn't seem to BE any more info than that. ... Every source I found quotes the same one-liner as Walter did.

Thanks, Reziac.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:14 PM
 
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Walter has been a great help.

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Old 01-30-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I want to appologize to Walter for this thread. I have thoughts of a person that used to blizts us with one liners and I thought that was what Walter did. I now realize that he didn't and I appologize for it.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Most I've ever seen were little wavelets that sometimes curl over themselves, and the occasional snowdrift that forms a big loop like a good surfin' wave. Never had the luck to see genuine free-range snow rollers!

I think the biggest snowflakes I've seen have actually been those aggregate flakes you sometimes see when it's just below freezing, and they come down in clumps. Sometimes the clumps would get big enough that they'd kindof splat down instead of drifting... maybe a couple inches across at most. But that's cheating since they're not single individual flakes.

Wonder if Santa's elves use the really big snowflakes as magic carpets? That would explain why we don't see them more often!!
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Ah, we'll forgive both of ya ... however I'm going to smack the webmaster at that online book's site, cuz the script fails in Seamonkey (Mozilla family) and all I can see is the list of places -- and the list of people! that's probably the really interesting part.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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I want to appologize to Walter for this thread.
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Old 01-31-2010, 05:40 PM
 
Location: SW Montana
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We should not be too quick to judge. Walter has been a great help. The question that I have is when will I ever get to see some of these ?


I've actually seen this, around 1983 or '84 in a snowy hayfield north and east of Wilsall, MT. Chinook or maybe just a warm front blowing in, winds about 20 kts. or so right out of the southwest. The top layer of snow started to melt and congeal along with a little big of a downhill grade to the north. They didn't roll up that big but maybe 8-10" in diameter - a couple rolls but more just snowballs. Didn't see the event happen, but came upon it that afternoon.

I'm not sure I buy the milk pan snowflake story. The physics of that phenomena would be difficult. I've see single flakes of maybe " or a little better, and clumps to maybe an 1" or so. Six wouldn't be out of reason, but much over that would require some fancy dancing as far as air movement, temperature, snow water content, crystal formation, etc. Not saying it's a total fabrication, but 15"x8"?

If you read any about the blizzard of 1888 (the January event that hit the plains, not the March East Coast event) there are accounts of very large flakes falling for some time prior to the high winds hitting - no real accounts of size but quite large and fell to the depth of as much as a foot prior to the high winds along the cold front hitting. Other areas received a very powdery snow. Very still and moist air, low altitude snowflake formation, extreme low pressure seem to have contributed. When the gale force winds hit all that piled up fluffy snow, it was a killer. Accounts of the actual storm front visuals said a tall wall of white interspersed with brown and black dirt and quite a bit of static lightning - must have looked like the end of the world to those pioneer schoolteachers.

All that said, I always thought jackalopes were just a story 'till I saw a mount hanging on a wall in the Stockman Bar in Livingston...so I guess anything's possible.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Here's an interesting site -- this fellow photographed 5000 snowflakes back 100+ years ago. Some of them are online and you can buy the whole collection on CDROM too. Wilson Bentley Snowflakes

Some modern snowflake photography (and tons of info about different types of snow, and crystals in general): http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/s...tos/photos.htm

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Old 02-08-2010, 07:30 PM
 
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Thanks for those sites Reziac....those are some beautiful flakes! Man I miss snow.
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