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Old 02-01-2010, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Are the legal grow farms monitored? I mean, are they limited to what they produced, based on number of legal customers or do they just produce with no limits? Do they charge a set fee? Are they limited as to how much they sell to one customer at a time? Obviously, a customer can't go in and buy 20lbs at a wack. What's the limits?
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Those are good questions. We need either a legal grower or one of their customers to tell us how it really works!
 
Old 02-01-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Woods Bay, Montana
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I was looking it up to satisfy my curiosity and I read the law, it states that someone who has registered as a patient (I guess they carry cards) can have up to 6 pot plants and I think one ounce of dried pot at a time.

I guess the "caregivers" are the ones who can grow the pot for the patients, which is probably the legal pot farm aforementioned. So for each person they have registered, they can grow 6 plants.

http://www.dphhs.mt.gov/medicalmarijuana/ (broken link)

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Old 02-01-2010, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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From the gov't site:
To use or grow marijuana under the Montana law, patients and caregivers must first register with the Quality Assurance Division of the Department of Public Health and Human Services.
Assuming there really is some quality control (inspection of the drug produced, etc.) this is a good step, to assure folks that they're not being sold carrot tops, or wild hemp (very low THC levels), or whatever is the latest adulterant in underground crops.

BTW there are no documented cases of someone dying from a pot overdose, so being "too strong" isn't really a concern.
 
Old 02-01-2010, 06:17 PM
 
Location: In The Outland
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The legal M.J. growers in Montana as well as other states are regulated by the federal government as to how many plants a legal grower can have who is providing pot for clients or patients (I think, to 99 plants).
Despite the wording of the federal laws against it, the regulation by the feds of number plants grown, is in my opinion de facto decriminalization on the federal level. As far as the reporting of his or her profits as a grower to the feds as taxable income goes, I have no info on that matter. The laws are evolving as we speak. I also am not sure what other states with legal M.M laws honor others state's card holders right to use their cards in their states.
 
Old 02-01-2010, 06:26 PM
 
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Another thing is that many assume that today's medical grade (or underground pot for that matter) is way more potent than the pot of the sixties or seventies must not have lived in the San Fransisco Bay area back then. Some of that cannabis was much more potent in the many different ways than both original strains and hybrids of the plant's newly discovered properties and qualities that they possess.
 
Old 02-01-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Woods Bay, Montana
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Another thing is that many assume that today's medical grade (or underground pot for that matter) is way more potent than the pot of the sixties or seventies must not have lived in the San Fransisco Bay area back then. Some of that cannabis was much more potent in the many different ways than both original strains and hybrids of the plant's newly discovered properties and qualities that they possess.
Or it could have been laced.
 
Old 02-01-2010, 06:50 PM
 
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Another thing is that many assume that today's medical grade (or underground pot for that matter) is way more potent than the pot of the sixties or seventies must not have lived in the San Fransisco Bay area back then. Some of that cannabis was much more potent in the many different ways than both original strains and hybrids of the plant's newly discovered properties and qualities that they possess.
Quality sensimilla (sp?) (seedless flowers) existed back then too, but it was much more uncommon. The vast majority of the weed available in most places was of lower quality, with seeds etc.. By the mid-late 80s (at least in populated, west-coast areas) "green bud" sensimillla was the norm.

The science and knowledge of growing methods here in the US have come a LONG way since then as well. Not only are quality growing methods well known and commonplace now (especially since the internet) but selective breeding is now producing some insanely potent stuff.

But I agree overall that yeah, people who only ever had crappy stuff back then just didn't have the best connections. Those who know how have been growing potent herb for literally thousands of years.
 
Old 02-02-2010, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I must say that discussing this is touchy and I don't want it to go down hill. I'm sure many of you don't either. As long as we discuss how "MONTANA" is handling it, we're fine.

But if it becomes a national debate on legalizing pot, I'm going to have to shut it down.

So far, I think we're fine. Please, let's keep it that way.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Quality sensimilla (sp?) (seedless flowers) existed back then too, but it was much more uncommon. The vast majority of the weed available in most places was of lower quality, with seeds etc..
Thus the line from the old song, "down to seeds and stems again"

Marijuana does grow wild in MT (dunno about now, but there used to be some in the ditches along I-90, between Big Timber and Laurel) and my understanding is that if wild-type hemp cross-fertilizes with "quality" weed, the resulting crop won't have enough THC to notice (wild hemp has very little THC). Since medical growers are essentially producing a drug with a hopefully-predictable dosage, seems to me it behooves them to know as much as possible about the variety they're growing, and to control pollen in the environment, etc.

That being the case -- I'm wondering exactly what MT's state inspectors look for in a growing operation, what sort of controls are done, testing of the product, etc.

What about people who don't wish to or can't smoke it, and may not be able to eat enough of it -- is it legal to extract and present the active drug in pill form?
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