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Unread 03-19-2010, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Motown
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There are a lot of people who move to Montana and don't want to change it. Like ... me!
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Unread 03-19-2010, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Montana
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Well, that is true for the most part, but I can say for myself and many others, it doesn't matter how much you make. You either work hard or you don't and most people here(where I work) don't! I guess it's a pride thing, as I have worked hard and strived to be the best at every job I have ever had, maybe it is my competetive nature?

Heck, IDK, maybe they're not lazy, maybe my expectations are just higher than they should be. But at any rate, IMO some of these people should feel extremely fortunate to even have a job and I think that they should work hard to keep it, that is all!
I'm the same way, as a matter of fact I built a career off of a job I took when I got out of the army at $7.94 per hour.

Now when we hire younger people some of them seem to feel that they have this "entitlement" to a great paying job with no work on their part.. Although at our shop they don't last very long with that kind of attitude.

There are some good people out there that want to work though, we've got some really good employees that really want to do the job, and I think it's also important to make sure that the guys and gals that work for it are compensated well and appreciated.

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Unread 03-20-2010, 11:42 AM
 
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Why do you care so deeply about what other's do? You must be a social worker

If you cared about Montana, you would be concerned about the future generation of our state. I'm not a social worker, but I do work in education and have valid concerns with the younger generations.
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Unread 03-27-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Woods Bay, Montana
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This is a RELOCATION forum, people come here to ask questions! If you don't want to answer them then why the hell are you even logging in?
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Unread 03-27-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Kalispel, MT
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There is no way to stop people from moving here. The population of the country is growing and people need to go somewhere. It's best to be TOLERANT and welcoming instead of putting them down and telling them not to come here.
I understand your frustrasion, but Maggoo has some really good points. Our crime rates have been increasing, which is stressful to the locals because they're not used to all the vandalism, theft and violence. I'm not saying outsiders shouldn't move here, but maybe some of them should check their kids into counceling, or something, to help them find healthier ways to deal with their anger and stress from the larger city lives. We need more jobs too to support the newcomers as well as the locals. It's tough because some of these outsiders bring in a more diverse experience with bigger crowds or more upgraded technology so they tend to have a better chance than the locals. This isn't always true, I know but it does cause difficulty.
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Unread 04-03-2010, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Cazenovia, New York
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I started this thread because so many people post new thread asking if Montana would be right for them or if they should move to Montana. There are already so many threads concerning this. I know that if I was going to move to another state, I would research (the Montana forum is a good place to start), but also visit the state, spend some time there, research the schools, housing, jobs ect....personally instead of asking others opinions. So many folks think of Montana and automatically see beautiful, pristine forests, deer munching on clover outside their window, an abundance of jobs and a peaceful, country-like place to raise their children. To someone from Cali. or Penn., I can see why Montana seems like that. I don't have a problem with people who really know what to expect and face it head-on moving to Montana. It's the people with a false sense of what Montana is really like moving here and once Montana does not meet up to their expectations, pack up the kids and the dog and move back with the attitude that Montana sucks. These are the folks that wanted, more than anything to get their kids out of the city, crime and hustle and bustle and move here. That is the impression I get from most of the new threads by folks who want to come here. Don't just get on Montana forum and rely on a few peoples posts, come here, check it out, line up a job first, go to the schools. When my husband and I were checking out jobs in a neighboring state, we went there, researched it on city-data forum and did alot of driving. My husband who has worked in the woods his whole life kept making the comment, "I can't believe there are no trees here, it's like a desert." I knew right then and there that he would not be happy living in that state. It wasn't hard for me to tell him I didn't think moving there was a good idea.
Excuse me, but...Get a life. I read your entire rant and can't see one single reason why anyone should respond. It's ridiculous. OF COURSE people ASK why they should move to a particular state///why do you THINK this forum exists???

For your uninformed information...California and Penn have beautiful areas in the state to live in. EVERY state has it's good and it's bad.
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Unread 04-10-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Kalispel, MT
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I started this thread because so many people post new thread asking if Montana would be right for them or if they should move to Montana. There are already so many threads concerning this. I know that if I was going to move to another state, I would research (the Montana forum is a good place to start), but also visit the state, spend some time there, research the schools, housing, jobs ect....personally instead of asking others opinions. So many folks think of Montana and automatically see beautiful, pristine forests, deer munching on clover outside their window, an abundance of jobs and a peaceful, country-like place to raise their children. To someone from Cali. or Penn., I can see why Montana seems like that. I don't have a problem with people who really know what to expect and face it head-on moving to Montana. It's the people with a false sense of what Montana is really like moving here and once Montana does not meet up to their expectations, pack up the kids and the dog and move back with the attitude that Montana sucks. These are the folks that wanted, more than anything to get their kids out of the city, crime and hustle and bustle and move here. That is the impression I get from most of the new threads by folks who want to come here. Don't just get on Montana forum and rely on a few peoples posts, come here, check it out, line up a job first, go to the schools. When my husband and I were checking out jobs in a neighboring state, we went there, researched it on city-data forum and did alot of driving. My husband who has worked in the woods his whole life kept making the comment, "I can't believe there are no trees here, it's like a desert." I knew right then and there that he would not be happy living in that state. It wasn't hard for me to tell him I didn't think moving there was a good idea.
Eh, what part of Montana are you living in?? No trees? The western part of Montana is the part with all the trees and wildlife. Check out Kalispel and Missoula. The Eastern side is the Montana plains, so of course their aren't a lot of trees there. What it lacks in trees though, it makes up for in large-starry skies and beautiful sunsets. I've lived here most of my life and I've heard a lot of people complain about the city folk coming in and bringing crime into the town. I suppose there is no real data to back up how true that is. I appologize for my previous comment, it's just the sort of things I hear all the time. To be honnest, I'm not even that fond of Montana. It's gorgeous, but I feel like I'm sacrificing a chance to live over the fear of my safety, should I ever move to another state. Lame, I know, but this state has pampered me.
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Unread 04-10-2010, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Eh, what part of Montana are you living in?? No trees?
Did you tap the wrong thread? I didn't say anything about trees other then making a joke about somebody traveling and the weather man said, watch out for black ice. I commented, in shady areas, oh I forgot, neither one of the 2 trees in Eastern Montana aren't close to the road, so don't worry.
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Unread 04-10-2010, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Woods Bay, Montana
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ElkHunter, rjmclau was quoting magoomafoo, not you. Read what's in the quotes near the bottom.

And rjmclau, to answer your statement to me, what do you mean "locals"? When people relocate they are now the "locals", too. The only ones who wouldn't would be those summer visitors who are rich and have many homes. People like me, who moved here for life, are now LOCALS. Thank you.
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Unread 04-11-2010, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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When people relocate they are now the "locals", too. The only ones who wouldn't would be those summer visitors who are rich and have many homes. People like me, who moved here for life, are now LOCALS. Thank you.
Address-wise, yeah, but many never become locals in terms of attitude. And there's the issue -- because it makes problems for folks who really ARE locals (either by birth or by assimilation).
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