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Old 12-03-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The problem in my opinion is not a lack of Anglo's becoming bilingual and trying their best to fit in with the French flavor of Quebec but the almost total non acceptance of the francophone to realize the Anglophone and other cultures are also part of Quebec, the prevailing attitude is Quebec belongs to Francophone's exclusively and they are the only rightful residents of the province,all others are not welcome or wanted.
In my case i've been here 40yrs, became bilingual,raised a family who are all bilingual and all i see is more linguistic rules and regulations,more language police more intolerance toward the non francophone demographic and now even religious freedoms potentially being curtailed by a government who's sole purpose is to separate from Canada. At this point i dont see any point to my continued presence in a place i'm so obviously not wanted or respected as a co culture of Quebec .
My wife came from the Granby area and is the last of a long line of empire loyalists, the whole Anglo community she grew up in is no longer as every one has either died or moved to other parts of Canada, even the town she grew up in West Shefford no longer exists as it was merged into Bromont,
Like many we are here until she retires then count us among those who have left Quebec...
Yes, we all know how you feel. All of us.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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Yes, we all know how you feel. All of us.
Why the snarky response? would you prefer i just stop posting and go away?
This is a discussion forum we tend to get to know how a lot of people feel about a lot of things and you'll continue to get my take on many things including my opinions of Quebec,because just like you i aint got nothing better to do most of the time but hang out on this forum..,
Put me on your ignore list if my posts strike you as repetitive and boring...

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Old 12-03-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Why the snarky response? would you prefer i just stop posting and go away?
This is a discussion forum we tend to get to know how a lot of people feel about a lot of things and you'll continue to get my take on many things including my opinions of Quebec,because just like you i aint got nothing better to do most of the time but hang out on this forum..,
Put me on your ignore list if my posts strike you as repetitive and boring...
Not being snarky, just not sure what it has to do with the topic at hand which is related to a marketing decision made by a number of businesses, most of which are probably not controlled by francophone Québécois people.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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While my post was rather off topic while responding to Aliss's post your reponse came off as rather rude and uncalled for.

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Old 12-03-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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Not being snarky, just not sure what it has to do with the topic at hand which is related to a marketing decision made by a number of businesses, most of which are probably not controlled by francophone Québécois people.
Back to the topic then..No bilingual signs in Fairview mall in a large Anglo demographic of Montreal, are you implying that people from outside Quebec most probably all Anglophones are telling their stores to post only French signs? If some kind of colusion is afoot here i think its coming from a source a lot closer than Mississauga or Nutley, New Jersey.

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Old 12-03-2013, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Canton, MI
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It seems the loudest complainers are those who chose not to stay behind and rather cry out against Quebec from behind the border of Ontario or elsewhere
I was in Montreal last weekend and there was plenty of whining on CJAD. One entire show about the remaining Anglos looking to move away.

I am glad to see that the Parti Quebecois, if nothing else, has remained consistent throughout the years in their relentless pursuit of independence and their complete inability to balance a budget. Only off by $2.5B. Not bad.
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Old 12-03-2013, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Canton, MI
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Not being snarky, just not sure what it has to do with the topic at hand which is related to a marketing decision made by a number of businesses, most of which are probably not controlled by francophone Québécois people.
All of the chains will have a regional head office. Likely in Montreal, likely run by francophones.
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:17 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Correct, most people don't care.

Truth is, most of the anglos who do care, ended up leaving the province. As I recall, both you and pdw, who care very much about this issue, have jumped ship too? My grandmother (old Irish Montrealer) was/still is very passionate about anglo rights here, but she left 30 years ago and whining from Vancouver isn't given much stock here.

So, generally the only ones left behind are those of us who can read French and don't really care if the signs are only in French.

It seems the loudest complainers are those who chose not to stay behind and rather cry out against Quebec from behind the border of Ontario or elsewhere
It may not anger you as much as other people, but our families built this province's economy and culture just as much as the Francophone ones did, and our language deserves acknowledgement, accommodation and recognition from the provincial government on an equal level as French. This isn't about being unable to understand French. Is it fair to expect all businesses to be bilingual? Not exactly libertarian, but fair, yes. Is it fair, though, to expect English businesses to be French when the reverse isn't expected for French businesses? No. Is it fair that francophone students from any background are allowed to attend public school in French anywhere in Canada, but anglophones in Quebec have to inherit the right? No. I feel no matter how many times I explain that the issues I have are because of double standards, people will always try and claim it's about something else when it's clearly not.
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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All of the chains will have a regional head office. Likely in Montreal, likely run by francophones.
In some cases yes, in some cases no.

I'd bet in a lot of cases it's a case of somebody in an office in Toronto or the States thinking "Montreal? It's all French there. So we go all French" out of simple ignorance of regional particularities like the West Island.

Somehow I doubt there is real malicious intent but what can I say, some people see that kind of stuff everywhere.
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Old 12-04-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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In some cases yes, in some cases no.

I'd bet in a lot of cases it's a case of somebody in an office in Toronto or the States thinking "Montreal? It's all French there. So we go all French" out of simple ignorance of regional particularities like the West Island.

Somehow I doubt there is real malicious intent but what can I say, some people see that kind of stuff everywhere.
I doubt Anglos outside Quebec would dictate what language a stores signage is in but would leave such minutia up to the store manger or franchise owner.
Assuming your premise to be correct the question now is will all those stores posting only French signs now switch to bilingual signs now knowing the Anglo demographic in the neighborhood have expressed displeasure with the practice of unilingual signage?.

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