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Old 12-10-2013, 05:08 PM
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Minorities have never been included in the general vision for an independent Quebec. One doesn't need to dig very deep to see that.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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Minorities have never been included in the general vision for an independent Quebec. One doesn't need to dig very deep to see that.
So you say, based on what? Do a bit of digging, and let us know if you find anything.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:25 PM
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How about their favourite slogan, "Québec aux Québécois"?
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Old 12-10-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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If things were as blatant and cut and dried as you claim they are, pdw, then there wouldn't be any minorities at all in the Quebec independence movement.
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:18 PM
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It's not completely black and white, but that's definitely the number 1 reason for the separatist movement.
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:08 AM
 
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The article is a bit dated but imparts the general attitude Quebecs ruling party has for minorities. It

PQ embracing minorities and cultural diversity? i aint seeing it.
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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Whoever claims that is all milk and honey for minorities in Quebec does not realise how segregated the province is. 50 kilometers outside Montreal there is barely any minorities or immigrant communities. Very few people other than pure laine quebecois live in the smaller towns in the province of Quebec. Compare that with Ontario or Alberta where you find minorities and immigrants almost everywhere. Go in an Walmart in St Jerome and see who the cashiers are, all white quebecois. On the other side of the border in Ontario in Cornwall, Hawkesbury or in Plattsburgh, New York State the Walmart has plenty of minorities clerks. They even have bilingual Spanish English signage in Plattsburgh Walmart and they page in Spanish in the store.
Take an educated guess why the minorities avoid the rest of Quebec outside of Montreal. It has nothing to do with the economics, some of those small towns they have lower unemployment rates than Montreal.
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Whoever claims that is all milk and honey for minorities in Quebec does not realise how segregated the province is. 50 kilometers outside Montreal there is barely any minorities or immigrant communities. Very few people other than pure laine quebecois live in the smaller towns in the province of Quebec. Compare that with Ontario or Alberta where you find minorities and immigrants almost everywhere. Go in an Walmart in St Jerome and see who the cashiers are, all white quebecois. On the other side of the border in Ontario in Cornwall, Hawkesbury or in Plattsburgh, New York State the Walmart has plenty of minorities clerks. They even have bilingual Spanish English signage in Plattsburgh Walmart and they page in Spanish in the store.
Take an educated guess why the minorities avoid the rest of Quebec outside of Montreal. It has nothing to do with the economics, some of those small towns they have lower unemployment rates than Montreal.
Oh boy. Immigration composition is different and Quebec does not get as many East Asians and South Asians as Ontario who tend to be visible minorities. Quebec gets more blacks (visible for sure) and also Latin Americans and people from the Middle East. And we can cherry-pick the stats all we want: Salaberry-de-Valleyfield in Quebec has more blacks than Belleville, Ontario. For example.

So how can you tell if the girl at Wal-Mart in St-Jérôme who speaks unaccented Quebec French and whose name tag says "CLAUDIA" isn't Lebanese or Chilean?

And I won't even touch your bizarre allusion that seems to associate immigrants and minorities only with menial jobs like Wal-Mart cashiers...
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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It's not completely black and white, but that's definitely the number 1 reason for the separatist movement.
Prove it. "Definitely" means it should be easy to find actual evidence of it.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Prove it. "Definitely" means it should be easy to find actual evidence of it.
And maybe we should ask Maka Kotto, Amir Khadir, Pierre Curzi, John Saywell, Robin Philpot, Bill Clennett, Christopher Hall, Djemila Benhabib, Scott MacKay, etc. what's in it for them, while we're at it?
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