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Old 09-23-2014, 03:57 PM
 
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Say I take a bus into Montreal, and get through the US border, can I then make a go of it and try to live there? I mean...I have a passport, can I just look for a job? and try to live there for a pre-determined period of time? I guess I'm also wondering if I cross into the place, and do not have any arrangements made, would I have trouble finding a couch to crash on, or some friendly folks to help me out. If there is such a night life, maybe I can just chill in the casino for a night or something...and then the next day can I find an unskilled job for myself and then just try to live there for a year or 2?

Well, if this fails I'll have a backup plan in Burlington Vermont, or Plattsburgh NY, and I'll start working on immigration from there.
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:59 AM
 
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Canada is a separate country from the USA and as such immigration procedures have to be fulfilled.
Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Coming to Canada in the manner you describe will have you not making it past the border.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:01 AM
 
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Canada is a separate country from the USA and as such immigration procedures have to be fulfilled.
Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Coming to Canada in the manner you describe will have you not making it past the border.
Jambo….is your troll alert not working?
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Old 09-24-2014, 04:22 AM
 
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I'll almost always give the op the benefit of the doubt,.as some people dont understand that you cant just walk into Canada and stay as long as you like, proper bureaucratic procedures have to be followed..
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Old 09-24-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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I'll almost always give the op the benefit of the doubt,.as some people dont understand that you cant just walk into Canada and stay as long as you like, proper bureaucratic procedures have to be followed..
You're nicer than me. I just find it hard to believe that a person who knows enough about getting a passport, hasn't some clue on procedures of living in another country.
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: NY
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A lot of Americans think that they can enter pretty much any country for work. Unfortunately they don't seem to have the knowledge that all countrie have processes in place for this goal. Especially an advanced country such as canada will certainly have both the processes and the controls to implement the processes.

The answer to the OP is this cannot be achieved.
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:32 PM
 
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eh I don't know anymore. So confused. Well what if I got through..."I'm going to meet my friend at McGill, blah blah blah'', bs story, and then instead I go around job hunting, and begging for a couch. Okay, this is not trolling, I understand that there are laws in place, but I'm wondering if it's possible to grit it out, and slip under the black rod as they say.
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Old 09-24-2014, 11:45 PM
 
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Okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll start by saying that Canadians don't want illegal immigrants coming into Canada and don't welcome them.

Illegal aliens who come to Canada can't find work and shelter the way illegal aliens who come to America can find work and shelter. When Americans hire and pay illegals for doing work for them they do it because they are cheap and if they get caught by the authorities the cheap American employer gets a stiff chewing out and maybe a slap on the wrist kind of warning to not do it again, but that is all.

If Canadians hire and pay illegals for doing work for them they risk losing everything and going to jail because in Canada it is a serious crime to hire or shelter illegal immigrants.

No legitimate employer would hire you without wanting to see proof of who you are, your work visa that shows you're allowed to work in Canada .... or ..... your Canadian ID and proof of citizenship, address, Canadian social insurance card, driver's license, etc. and putting you on their employment and payroll records .... they won't hire you quietly even for cash under the table. If they hire you without checking all of that out they're at a very high risk of losing their business, their business license, their reputation, of getting a hefty fine and even jail time. You can be guaranteed that somebody else who is a legal citizen and more deserving of the job will report the employer to authorities if the employer hires illegal aliens. So ..... no illegal alien and a stranger to boot is worth those kinds of risks to any Canadian employer.

And anyone shady who agreed to hire you illegally without putting you on their employment and payroll records would be at risk of getting ripped off by you and they would have no recourse to the law, and you also would be at risk of getting ripped off by them and of course you would have no recourse to the law. So someone hiring you illegally can't be trusted because they could agree to pay you cash under the table, put you to work and get several hours or even days of work out of you then not pay you a penny. And then laugh at you. You would be totally screwed and there'd be nothing you could do about it.

Likewise with looking for a shelter or even a couch to crash on. Nobody will give shelter to an illegal. It's a crime punishable by law to shelter and encourage illegal immigrants. The only people who might take the risk, knowing you're an illegal, would be criminals in their own right and with their own criminal motives - so they likely can't be trusted and would do wrong by you, perhaps even seriously harm you. And again you'd be screwed and there'd be nothing you could do about it.

Now, lets say that somehow the illegal immigrant who doesn't have any Canadian friends or connections willing to take criminal risks for him, and he has no shelter and no job but does somehow manage to live by squatting in the bush or in alleys behind dumpsters and living off his survival skills and resources through the spring and summer (which is not easy to do in Canada in those kind of circumstances) - he is still screwed come winter time in Canada. Nobody who doesn't know what Canadian winters are like can survive it, and nobody who does know what Canadian winters are like would ever be foolish enough to attempt it. It would be like committing suicide.

So .... what you have in mind is not easy to do in Canada like it would be in America. And if you try it and then inevitably get caught by the authorities you would be in trouble not only with Canada's authorities, you would also be in trouble with America's authorities when you got turned over to them by Canadian authorities.

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Old 09-25-2014, 04:17 AM
 
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eh I don't know anymore. So confused. Well what if I got through..."I'm going to meet my friend at McGill, blah blah blah'', bs story, and then instead I go around job hunting, and begging for a couch. Okay, this is not trolling, I understand that there are laws in place, but I'm wondering if it's possible to grit it out, and slip under the black rod as they say.
Nothing stopping you from giving it a try, problem is if you get caught things will get very inconvenient and for sure you will be denied any future entry into Canada..
Obviously Canada does have illegal aliens but its a life on par with being a fugitive,you'll never get ahead in life you'll just be a perpetual transient.
Why not try to go through regular channels and get a work permit.
Start here.
Work in Canada temporarily
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Old 09-25-2014, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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How are you going to explain your stay the the US border guards upon your return?

AND


Don't be a mooch. Do it right.
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