Banks MUST write down loands to prevent a MASS homeowner exodus.

[willdufauve]

The UCC-1 concept has been promoted in the past by some of the Freemen militia groups from out west. The little I remember from the news is they're radical anti-tax, anti-government, extreme racist groups that have tried a lot of misguided legal tactics and harassment of judges. A lot of them are in jail.

Not saying Fighter 1 is part of that, but the aggressive quasi-legal rhetoric is familiar.

[Fighter 1]

Originally Posted by willdufauve

The UCC-1 concept has been promoted in the past by some of the Freemen militia groups from out west. The little I remember from the news is they're radical anti-tax, anti-government, extreme racist groups that have tried a lot of misguided legal tactics and harassment of judges. A lot of them are in jail.

Not saying Fighter 1 is part of that, but the aggressive quasi-legal rhetoric is familiar.

**** WeLL just got back in town ,Read your post. let me correct your thoughts in the post if i might , The UCC-! is not a concept! it is a means to establish a lein and to properly give notice of that,100% LEGAL. Now with that said the remark about the freeman groups is also 100% correct. And the tactics to harrassment to the Judges and Gov. officials again 100 % correct . I have heard and personally know of these tactics, how ever I am glad that are not saying that i am a part of that because if you were let me say that on that part of your post you are 100% WRONG And as to my postings being rhetoric and familiar ? I attended a meeting on saturday requested by a So. California Realitor who has been reading these postings and let me say this after spending 4 1/2 hours explaining and showing the documents that i refering to in my posts i have only one thing to say. get educated with the whole UCC-1 process because it would appear that you and those that feel and make the statements you do are the ones that are hurting the readers like the Banks and Mtg.Co. are. It would appear that now there are 25+ more people who took the time to read and understand there really is some legal help out there to help in these matters and it doesn't come from an Attorney, (althou there was one hiding in the middle of the realitors). all that is required in some Education ( it been there all the time , but many people refuse to take the time. I ask can 25+ Realtor be also wrong? Excuese me + 1 LAWYER!****** And as to my quasi-lagal rhetoric ( and agressiveness ) let me say that i just finished a 3 1/2 year legal battle with a So. California City ( which i have stated in another posting ) which i did pro per and was sucessful , so i guess after acting as my own attorney and acting as agressivelly as was nessesary ,I have not learned that this Forun is not a Court room . Never the less it does not deminish the correctfulness of my statements of the facts,as i am prepared to any challenge in a court of law To which I feel that i will again be sucessful.

[Niners fan]

Originally Posted by Fighter 1

OH yes those famous words , I do recall Judge John N. Martin making that same statement and ruling , only to have it was overturned in appeal. The UCC -1 stood intact .

That doesn't make you right. That only suggests that the appeal judge was appointed by either Governor Jerry Brown or Gray Davis (both Democrats).

[Fighter 1]

Originally Posted by Niners fan

That doesn't make you right. That only suggests that the appeal judge was appointed by either Governor Jerry Brown or Gray Davis (both Democrats).

********** I find your comments laughable !,********But concidering that I am Not a Democrat and that I am registered as a Constitutionalst. and also a known "GADFLY" in the area. thanks for the comments. But if it doesn't make me right please tell us all ,WHY not?

[Fighter 1]

Originally Posted by Niners fan

For mortgages the UCC-1 is designed for a lender to put a lien on fixtures or equipment that is used as collateral for a loan. For instance, if you buy an apartment complex with furnishings in it, the lender can place a UCC-1 on it to have claim on the furnishings until the loan is paid off. When I bought a manufacturing business the lender placed a UCC-1 on the equipment that was part of the purchase. That enabled me to qualify for the loan more easily.

When people do as you suggest and use something like a UCC-1 for a purpose for which is it not designed you are going to end up forcing lenders to change how they do things and make it harder for people to get loans using fixtures or equipment as collateral. You might think you are smart and sticking it to the Big Bank but in reality you are being dishonest and hurting other peoples' ability to obtain financing in the future.

Wow! hate to say it but your out in left feild on that one ,no disrespect intended just that like many other post on the issue again you really need to research the UCC . I know i have said it a million times by thats the truth . people here on this site are stating their interpatation on the issue , i am stating fact on how it can be used and how it is used legally . i am sorry if you ideas are differant these are the facts.

[Fighter 1]

Originally Posted by Fighter 1

Wow! hate to say it but your out in left feild on that one ,no disrespect intended just that like many other post on the issue again you really need to research the UCC . I know i have said it a million times by thats the truth . people here on this site are stating their interpatation on the issue , i am stating fact on how it can be used and how it is used legally . i am sorry if you ideas are differant these are the facts.

************ I was just wondering if anyone out there reading this site took the time to research the differance between the capitol spelling of your name (JOHN J. SMITH ) and the uper & lower case spelling
( John J. Smith)? Are they one of the same ? Or are the 2 differant ?.

[texdav]

There are alot of people in the federal pen that constantly say they were right and legal too;but they are were they are still.

[Fighter 1]

Originally Posted by texdav

There are alot of people in the federal pen that constantly say they were right and legal too;but they are were they are still.

HMMMMMM! I just don't get it ? What do you mean ? Again have you done your research ? I think not !