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Old 03-05-2009, 01:09 PM
Location: Durham, NC
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Originally Posted by goodbyehollywood View Post

Hey, sbanawan, check out my blog sometime. I'll bet you can find it. I have yet to see you do anything but cheerlead or troll, but maybe someday you'll be able to think on your own. There certainly has been no evidence of it to date, but one can always hope.
Originally Posted by sbanawan View Post
I guess you missed a few of my posts, then. That's ok. Let's start at the top.

With respect to effective economic stimulus:

Mark Zandi (McCain's former economic advisor; pdf link), at economy.com, has an analysis of the multiplier effect of various types of government efforts.

The effects of tax cuts range from $.30 to $1.28. The tax cut you favor, not letting Bush's cut expire, would net $.31 for every $1 invested. That's an awful return on investment.

The effects of infrastructure spending, which healthcare reform falls under, range from $1.38 - $1.73. The jobs created by spending on healthcare modernization would be under "infrastructure spending" at $1.59 created from $1 spent.

With respect to the small businesses being affected so detrimentally by letting the tax cuts expire, the non-partisan Tax Policy Center, has some real numbers for us:

Only 3.8% of small businesses make more than $250k/year (and this was in 2007 when businesses were doing much better). That is, only 3.8% of business could possibly be affected by the $250k tax increase.

To quote them:

In other words, your claim, while scary if true, is completely false.

I'll take a break now and allow you to respond with your own numbers. Please cite your sources. I know this isn't school, but it is common courtesy.
Your response?
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Old 03-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Location: Durham, NC
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One final bump so that people goodbyehollywood gets a chance to respond or be shown to have no support for her views. Either way is fine with me. (BTW, she called me out so I'm just returning the favor. I actually want to have an intelligent debate about this.)
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlsAdvc8 View Post
Nationalize the zombie banks, clean them up, and re-privatize them down the road just as Switzerland did.
To correct myself: It was Sweden not Switzerland.

(semi)Counter-argument here... and one proposed solution. In the end though, I'm still betting something gets nationalized.

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