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Old 08-02-2011, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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It was almost scene for scene exactly the same, from what I can recall. It was fine, but once you've seen the original, this version loses some of its punch.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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I didn't like the movie at all. It had a few BRILLIANT scenes, but a few brilliant scenes do not a good movie make.

The pacing was turgid. Watching this movie was like watching icicles drip.

And there was a tone of pedophilia throughout that set off my Ick Factor.

I'm not generally interested in vampire-themed movies, but this one has a lot of compelling psychological depth that goes beyond the vampire theme.

I certainly didn't pick up any pedophilic vibes. I do think American culture is structured to be very uptight when dealing with anything that even hints of adolescent sexuality. I find Scandinavians tend to be far more open in dealing with human sexuality in general. There is a wonderful Norwegian film called Is-Slottet ("Ice Castle"--directed by Per Bloom) which will likely never be shown in The US because there are a couple of brief non-sexual nude scenes involving early-adolescent girls.
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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I really enjoyed the the film ( I have not seen the American version of it) , in essence it is not really about Vampires to me but about an unlikely and tentative friendship which develops between two outsiders. I feel Eli takes to Oskar because like him she does not fit in and is an outsider looking in.

She is a fierce and ruthless predator but also someone who relates to Oskar at a deeper level . It is a mutually co-dependent relationship . The Vampirism is almost an allegory for a desperate dependency. Oskar is not just a new Hakan, he is a companion , something she has presumably never had.

They relate to each other . They find each other. It is a tale of utter loneliness and of not belonging from both main protagonists, both social pariahs for different reasons.

She does try to warn him that she can't be a friend to him and yet I think that is what she becomes in a sad and twisted sort of way. The only kind of friendship she can offer anyway.

I thought it was beautiful, poignant and incredibly potent as a film. This is not a horror film or a vampire film , more of a psychological insight into social inadequacy and alienation. Anyone thinking this should have been more on the lines of Dracula is kind of missing the point to me.
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:55 AM
 
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Interesting films, both the original (for some reason I thought it was Danish, not Swedish) and the American version.

It nicely illustrates that a genre that has been filmed seemingly to death still occasionally produces an interesting new take. In this case, that take happens to have been presented very well cinematically.

Aside from being set in New Mexico rather than Sweden, the American version is almost identical. It nicely captures the mood of the original film and replicates the excellent acting and overall fine production of the original. It's nice to see such a version not abandon quality drama for traditional Hollywood excesses -- more gore, too much CGI, more 'excitement' at the expense of all that 'boring' plot and development.
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Old 08-03-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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Isn't it interesting how Eli manages to save Oscar at exactly the right time?

For a movie set in pretty stark terms are we left to believe the hackneyed "nick of time" theory or that Eli watched and waited for the bullies to abuse Oscar sufficiently and then come to the "rescue" to deepen his trust\dependency on a now guardianless Eli.

I think a whole bunch of people watch the movie and are imprinting their own general goodness on Eli\Oscar and thus view it as a friendship. In reality Eli and Hakan have lived a highly structured and thought out plan for DECADES. Look how they keep moving, how Hakan expertly kills and drains the bodies....someone taught him this...whom do you think?

Also note that Eli met up with Hakan and recruited him at a tender age to replace ??????? quite coincidental that Oscar is basically the same age and mental state as a young Hakan?

When you add this all up, and if you watch it again, see if you pick up on all the little clues when you look back over her relationship and discarding of Hakan and his unease with Eli reaching out to Oscar like she once did to him.
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Old 08-03-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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Isn't it interesting how Eli manages to save Oscar at exactly the right time?

For a movie set in pretty stark terms are we left to believe the hackneyed "nick of time" theory or that Eli watched and waited for the bullies to abuse Oscar sufficiently and then come to the "rescue" to deepen his trust\dependency on a now guardianless Eli.

I think a whole bunch of people watch the movie and are imprinting their own general goodness on Eli\Oscar and thus view it as a friendship. In reality Eli and Hakan have lived a highly structured and thought out plan for DECADES. Look how they keep moving, how Hakan expertly kills and drains the bodies....someone taught him this...whom do you think?

Also note that Eli met up with Hakan and recruited him at a tender age to replace ??????? quite coincidental that Oscar is basically the same age and mental state as a young Hakan?

When you add this all up, and if you watch it again, see if you pick up on all the little clues when you look back over her relationship and discarding of Hakan and his unease with Eli reaching out to Oscar like she once did to him.
I had many of the same thoughts
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