The amazing spider-man (comedy, family, music, picture)

[Garfunkle524]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

I can't think of a single composer of the upcoming generation that excites me.

Klaus Badelt, in my opinion, will be the last great film scorer. He was mentored by Hans Zimmer but he's so much better. Klaus wrote the score for the first Pirates of the Caribbean, arguably the most memorable score in recent cinema. Unfortunately Zimmer took over for the remaining Pirates movies and all of them were pretty bland.

Movies tend to put more budget into effects and personnel than music nowadays anyway. That's just the way the industry is moving. Count me as one unhappy camper.

[ifeeldope]

I thought the movie was just awful. Like others mentioned, it was rushed but, for some reason they found the time to show over extended moments of Peter Park baffled by speaking. I literally can go down a list of extremely stupid unrealistic moments that just made me nod my head in disappointment but, I'm not going to list any of it for the sake of those who haven't seen the movie. The only redeeming qualities was the action scenes, and Gwen Stacy. Other than that I might as well have just stayed at home and watched the first one. Toby is waaaay better anyways.

If your looking for an action movie with little thought put into the casting, story plot and script, then see this movie but, if your the type of person who really focuses on the quality of a movie, then this will leave you frustrated.

[KRAMERCAT]

It's great if you like teen angst movies, which I don't. Will Peter kiss Gwen or won't he? Will they resume their romance or not? It felt like a made for tv movie at times. Even the Lizard was lame. The actions scenes were typical computer graphics - a lot of bang, boom and not much else. The characters are just ok, and all of them, especially Peter, pale in comparison to the original cast.

[Mark S.]

Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT

It's great if you like teen angst movies, which I don't.

Teen angst has always been the core of Spider-Man. It's part of the reason the character became such a hit. If you don't like teen angst, you should probably steer clear of Spidey altogether.

Raimi tried to nail that in the first 20 minutes or so of his first movie, but he never seemed very comfortable with it, so he quickly got Peter out of high school and on to adult troubles.

[citizenkane2]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

Teen angst has always been the core of Spider-Man. It's part of the reason the character became such a hit. If you don't like teen angst, you should probably steer clear of Spidey altogether.

Raimi tried to nail that in the first 20 minutes or so of his first movie, but he never seemed very comfortable with it, so he quickly got Peter out of high school and on to adult troubles.

I agree.....Peter is a teenager in highschool thru most of the 60's.......then on to college.

[Miker2069]

Okay so I saw the movie this evening and I have to say I enjoyed it. I had my reservations but I enjoyed it. The person I was with knew nothing about Spider-man and she enjoyed it. So I think for people who know nothing about the comic book character, they will find it a good action movie with a lot of things that appeal to most folks (action, boy likes girl girl likes boy moments, conflict, etc. etc.). Now as someone who actually enjoyed thoroughly the first 3 spider-mans I felt a few things like:

• it was to soon for a reboot. Sort of like the person who buries a spouse and immediately marries someone else
  I kept comparing Toby and Kristen to Andrew and Gwen (although Andrew and Gwen had good chemistry). This isn't bad or anything but again, Toby/Kristen were still fresh in my mind. I'm glad they did Peter and Gwen (and honestly I had no idea who Gwen was and had to google her to find out she was Peter's first love). Doing another Mary Jane would have been to much of a knock off.
  The effects seemed better than the other movies, it seemed "less cgi-y" which is a big feat. I really enjoyed that.
  Dr. Connors was brilliant, really enjoyed the actor who played his role.
  I to felt it was rushed in several parts. Okay bit by a spider, come with the spidey suit, etc. I get it that they didn't want to spend *to* much time on the origin part, but it felt really rushed.
  I like th aspect of the mechnical webbing which is how I grew up with spider-man.

All in all, it was very good, but it was no spider-man 1 or (gasp) Dark Knight experience where you wanted it to never end. I would argue this version of spider-man could not have existed w/o the Toby Mcgquire versions. The events of the what was going to be spider-man 4 led to this so in some wierd way this movie owes whatever it gets to that rendition. Well mission complete, I was a skeptic, but now I've seen it, like it, and the ultimate goal, they got my money

[KRAMERCAT]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

Teen angst has always been the core of Spider-Man. It's part of the reason the character became such a hit. If you don't like teen angst, you should probably steer clear of Spidey altogether.

Raimi tried to nail that in the first 20 minutes or so of his first movie, but he never seemed very comfortable with it, so he quickly got Peter out of high school and on to adult troubles.

No, you are wrong. The 'core' of Spiderman is the theme of good vs evil, Spiderman vs the villan. Rami captured the Peter Parker persona perfectly. The awkwardness was never high schoolish, Peter was a college student. His awkwardness was genuine not the formula served up this time around. The whole deal with Peter getting even in the high school gym by jumping 20 feet to dunk a basketball over Flash was really stupid. Spiderman would never reveal himself in that manner.

[Mark S.]

Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT

No, you are wrong. The 'core' of Spiderman is the theme of good vs evil, Spiderman vs the villain.

No. Good vs. evil is the core of EVERY hero. Even Superman got that simplistic. What set Spidey (and Marvel Comics in general) apart from other super heroes throughout the '60s and '70s was the angst.

For Spidey it was being the picked-on geek, first in high school, then college. He didn't have a Fortress of Solitude or Manor outside the city. He had to worry about paying rent. He had dating problems. Bullies picked on him. He had family problems. His boss was a pain. That is what made Spider-Man such a unique hero. That is what Webb's film captured (albeit flawed in places), much better than Raimi did. Raimi seemed in love with the villains, and treated Spidey as a story tangent. When Raimi got the brilliance, it was with the villains. Spidey he never quite captured.

Fantastic Four, the Hulk, Daredevil, X-Men ... angst, angst, angst, and angst. That's Marvel Comics.

Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT

The awkwardness was never high schoolish, Peter was a college student.

Which is part of why it missed the point. Sure, Peter progressed to college in the original stories. But not instantly. We got to see his struggles in high school as he struggled to be a super hero. The two complemented each other.

Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT

The whole deal with Peter getting even in the high school gym by jumping 20 feet to dunk a basketball over Flash was really stupid. Spiderman would never reveal himself in that manner.

I agree that was a weak scene. Very much. But no more so than Peter doing an 8-ft backflip in a crowded hallway, surrounded by onlookers.

But Flash was SOOOOO much better in the reboot. He was still a high school bully, but not a two dimensional stock character. He had more than one side to his personality, which Raimi didn't even attempt.

[KRAMERCAT]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

No. Good vs. evil is the core of EVERY hero. Even Superman got that simplistic. What set Spidey (and Marvel Comics in general) apart from other super heroes throughout the '60s and '70s was the angst.

For Spidey it was being the picked-on geek, first in high school, then college. He didn't have a Fortress of Solitude or Manor outside the city. He had to worry about paying rent. He had dating problems. Bullies picked on him. He had family problems. His boss was a pain. That is what made Spider-Man such a unique hero. That is what Webb's film captured (albeit flawed in places), much better than Raimi did. Raimi seemed in love with the villains, and treated Spidey as a story tangent. When Raimi got the brilliance, it was with the villains. Spidey he never quite captured.

Fantastic Four, the Hulk, Daredevil, X-Men ... angst, angst, angst, and angst. That's Marvel Comics.

Which is part of why it missed the point. Sure, Peter progressed to college in the original stories. But not instantly. We got to see his struggles in high school as he struggled to be a super hero. The two complemented each other.

I agree that was a weak scene. Very much. But no more so than Peter doing an 8-ft backflip in a crowded hallway, surrounded by onlookers.

But Flash was SOOOOO much better in the reboot. He was still a high school bully, but not a two dimensional stock character. He had more than one side to his personality, which Raimi didn't even attempt.

This movie will really appeal to the 'Twilight' series fans - nuff said.

[BU191433]

I don't like Twight, I don't like teen angst, I am in my mid 40's. But I really liked this movie. The story and chracters really drew me in and that is how I judge a movie