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You act like she knew her daughter was alive for most of Vol. 2. She didn't find out until towards the end. So basically you are saying that 85% of the time in the two movies combined she was a villain, but maybe 15 % of the time and at the END she becomes a good guy?
I dunno killing your daughter's father while she is sleeping literally a few rooms away is pretty brutal and nasty. Especiall when you see your daughter loves her father very much. Not saying Bill didn't have it coming, but the bride didn't seem to care, and really was only seeking revenge.
I think you may have a different definition of "good guy" in a story than I do. The good guy/protagonist/hero/whatever is not someone with no faults or vices and a soul as pure as new snow. Such characters are rarely interesting, because it's so hard to identify with them. The protagonist is someone who earns your sympathy and whom you want to win. They need not be flawless and follow all of society's rules.
In that regard, the Bride is very much a great protagonist, even if she does do some morally reprehensible things in the story. She grows as a character, beginning (at least chronologically) as an amoral assassin, then ending as someone who is willing to do anything to protect her daughter. She doesn't kill a single innocent in the movie. Bill not only had it coming, but he would have turned the little girl into one of his pet monsters. The Bride was not only taking vengeance, she was ending the poison of Bill's influence.
Although ...
It isn't quite so tidy. She does kill the one assassin who has a daughter, very much mirroring her own situation. Will that continue the cycle of vengeance? It gives a lot of credence to the old saying, "An eye for an eye means the whole world will soon be blind."
Michael Corleone is the hero in The Godfather, but the story is about how a good guy becomes a bad guy. The whole story is about corruption, and how sometimes good people will do the wrong things for admirable reasons --- and vice versa. So Michael begins as the hero, but ends as the villain.
True. The whole plot of the movie is how Michael transforms from the innocent young man who wants no part of his father's empire, to the ruthless and vicious leader he became near the conclusion.
True. The whole plot of the movie is how Michael transforms from the innocent young man who wants no part of his father's empire, to the ruthless and vicious leader he became near the conclusion.
Michael is "ruthless and vicious" for good reason--that's the nature of the Mafia. How could someone experience what he does and not change considerably as a person?
The Usual Suspects
American Beauty
Once Upon a Time in America
The Departed
Glengarry Glen Ross
Boogie Nights
The Departed? How are Billy Costigan, Captain Queenan, and Trooper Brown (Costigan's classmate, played by Anthony Anderson) not good guys?
Last edited by Pi64; 04-12-2014 at 06:35 PM..
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