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Old 01-26-2013, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I saw this in the Chron today.

Movie recounts Oscar Grant's final day - SFGate

I am intrigued. Not my type of movie, but if it plays for free somewhere I might go see it.

One of m big problems with Oscar Grant's case (and Trayvon Martin's case) is how these young men are portrayed after these incidents.

In Grant's case, in my book it is very clear that BART PPD overreacted in handling him. He was restrained. No need for tasers or guns no matter what. He was a a rowdy drunk guy, on a day known for people getting drunk and rowdy. I am sure there were at least a couple dozen other people behaving the same way that evening. I am absolutely positive around 50% of all men have had a day when they were tipsy and they had a bar fight/train fight/sidewalk fight/ football game fight etc and nothing bad happened to them.

What's different here? How he was perceived. Mehserle's trial hinged on the idea that Grant was a bad guy who deserved it. We aren't giving former felons or parolees a scarlet letter. The only think he knew on the platform that nigh was there was a drunk guy, who was in an altercation restrained on the BART platform. Where was the escalation that caused use of force?

They Trayvon Martin case is tying to use this same tactic of vilifying the victim.

It is ridiculous.

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Old 01-26-2013, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, CA
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Sad case. Even if Mehserle was an idiot and mistook his gun for a taser, I certainly don't want a dumb-dumb like him working in law enforcement any more (part of his rejected appeal last year).
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Sad case. Even if Mehserle was an idiot and mistook his gun for a taser, I certainly don't want a dumb-dumb like him working in law enforcement any more (part of his rejected appeal last year).
Yes. Police officers need to be level headed in stressful situations. That is a core job description. If he had to use a Taser on a guy throwing a couple of punches after drinking, how would he have reacted in a more threatening situation?
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Agreed jade408.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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Is that thug Mesherle in prison? or serving his term in home with full pay from BART? and looking into early retirement with pension and other goodies?
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, CA
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Is that thug Mesherle in prison? or serving his term in home with full pay from BART? and looking into early retirement with pension and other goodies?
He's on parole, but he's banned from taking a law enforcement job because he has a conviction on his record. He tried to get the supreme court to overturn it so he could go back to being a cop but his appeal was officially denied in September (or December). So now he gets to take a job cleaning the floors clean at Walmart with his tongue.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Mehserle isn't the thug. Inept cop, but no thug. Actually, even Grant isn't the thug anymore. Regardless, he was no martyr or saint by any stretch and completely undeserving of a movie.
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