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Old 06-13-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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Well yeah, of course you'd be arrested in real life if you just started having sex on the street or stripped naked. I don't even understand that statement. Why would you even compare that to films? It's not even a comparable situation. Films vs. real life. Completely not even the same.
I just think it's hypocritical b/c actresses and actors who do adult scenes are digitally simulating (on screen) the very act of undressing themselves as if they would, were they on the street, to a public audience (in this case, the moviegoers). Same thing with plays, where the actors disrobe. I know that it is a little more nuanced environment than street exhibitionism, but the underlying behavior is essentially the same -- an actress or actor undressing and exposing him or herself, in public...
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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I just think it's hypocritical b/c actresses and actors who do adult scenes are digitally simulating (on screen) the very act of undressing themselves as if they would, were they on the street, to a public audience (in this case, the moviegoers). Same thing with plays, where the actors disrobe. I know that it is a little more nuanced environment than street exhibitionism, but the underlying behavior is essentially the same -- an actress or actor undressing and exposing him or herself, in public...
I really don't know where you're coming from here. Who is undressing on the street like it's a common thing to do? How can you not understand what acting is?
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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All of the actresses I listed may or may not choose to do a steamy movie such as 'Last Tango In Paris' or 'Basic Instinct', but if they don't, and continue to shine in serious and adult-centered movies that the major studios have stopped making with few exceptions without resorting to nudity, then so what?

Last time I checked, they've all done superb work in tons of movies aimed at the 40+ crowd whom Hollywood has given up on, or moved over to TV, where several networks have emulated HBO's long-running practice of top-notch films with A-list actors, actresses, directors and screenwriters, with spectacular results.

I somehow forgot Jessica Chastain, Anne Hathaway and Carey Mulligan, three more exceptional actresses; it would be really nice if the fact that most of last year's Best Picture nominees were aimed at adults as opposed to 8th graders would inspire the major studios to do more such films, but I'm not holding my breath.

Thank goodness for cable TV and HBO.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I'm imagining Knight as one of those people painting fig leaves on Greek, Roman, and Renaissance art.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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So it's not just that you want more "wholesome" entertainment, you want the actual actresses to make career decisions that would leave them un-besmirched in your eyes?
That is what it sounds like to me. Have you also decided the writers, producers, cameramen and directors of these movies with explicit scenes are also unwholesome and "contaminated?"
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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Why the focus on women?

Please don't feed into the madonna-ho complex, Knight.
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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I really don't know where you're coming from here. Who is undressing on the street like it's a common thing to do? How can you not understand what acting is?
True, they are acting out a part -- but behind the fictional character that the actress or actor is presenting is the underlying performer themselves. What I don't understand is how the performer can so easily separate their character's role from themselves, as a person. Their character is undressing on the big screen, but ultimately so are they (the performer)...

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Old 06-14-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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Why the focus on women?

Please don't feed into the madonna-ho complex, Knight.
I am sorry Lilac; no worries my friend, I didn't mean to focus exclusively on women, certainly (If you look at some of my more recent later posts on the thread, I also mentioned Daniel Radcliffe's [a.k.a. Harry Potter] publicly disrobing completely a few years ago for the play he participated in (I believe the name of the performance was Equiis, or something thereabouts). I also attempted to be more gender-neutral; i.e., instead of referring to only actresses, I also began referencing both "actresses and actors", in my later posts.

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Old 06-14-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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Thank goodness for cable TV and HBO.
One reason that I outright refuse to subscribe to HBO as a premium cable network channel is because, if I am remembering right, HBO not only features uncensored adult-explicit mainstream films, but they have full-blown softcore pornographic content from the adult industry itself featured, in the late-night hours. In other words, they feature programming that is akin to something explicitly and understandably pornographic, similar to Girls Gone Wild, or even stronger...

A few years ago, my cable provider offered something like a free, no-cost week of promotional HBO programming, and I had to specifically call them so that I could ask them to block that station from appearing on my channel playlist as a selectable option.
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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True, they are acting out a part -- but behind the fictional character the that the actress or actor is presenting is the underlying performer themselves. What I don't understand is how the performer can so easily separate their character's role from themselves, as a person. Their character is undressing on the big screen, but ultimately so are they (the performer)...
They can separate themselves from their characters, because it's their job as an actor to do so. Christian Bale isn't really a multimillionaire who fights crime in his off time, but Bruce Wayne is. So he dresses and acts and does things that Bruce Wayne does in the script. People who can't compartmentalize would be pretty lousy actors.

Underlying all this is your particular hangup that sex and nudity are somehow dirty and shameful. People aren't born with clothes on, and when they hit puberty they generally have sexual desires. None of this is inherently bad or wrong. That there's a ratings system (and dozens of internet reviews online) should keep you away from content you don't like. You can't expect the entertainment industry and society in general to subscribe to your puritanical views of sex. That's all on you.
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