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Old 01-24-2015, 05:35 PM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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Racism or at least a lack of understanding (of race) plays a role. Politics and personal vendettas also matter.

David Oyelowo was excellent as MLK Jr. However, Denzel's version of Malcolm X was iconic and he didn't win. Al Pacino beat him out with "Scent of a Woman." Denzel deserved the award that year, but Pacino probably deserved at least one win for one of the Godfather movies alone. Hollywood has a knack for passing on people one year and doing make-up votes in the future. Denzel won for Training Day; a great role, but not his best.

Jennifer Lawrence and Bradley Cooper have probably been the two biggest stars in Hollywood over the past 3-ish years. Honestly, I don't see it. They're solid, but I'm not quite sure why they're at the apex of Tinseltown. Sometimes certain actors and actresses with above average skills get pushed to the forefront for reasons that escape the public.

Chadwick Bozeman was arguably the best male actor this year in the James Brown movie. Actors of all races get snubbed, but I've seen quite few black actors get snubbed in situations where a white actor with a similar performance would win an award.
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I agree 100% about the Oscar folks handing out 'makeup Oscars' after getting torched in the media for votes from previous years; after seeing The Exorcist on opening day (12-26-73) in nearby Westwood, I told an Oscar voter sitting next to me that the Academy was going to get ripped to pieces if anybody other than Ellen Burstyn won the Best Actress Oscar, which is exactly what happened after Glenda Jackson won for the lightweight A Touch Of Class.

Ms. Burstyn predictably won her 'makeup Oscar' the following year for Scorsese's Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, robbing Gena Rowlands who should have won for A Woman Under The Influence.
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Jennifer Lawrence and Bradley Cooper have probably been the two biggest stars in Hollywood over the past 3-ish years. Honestly, I don't see it.
Lawrence probably received the Best Actress award for, as you said, a make-up vote for her performance in "Winter's Bone." (Few knew who she was back then.)

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Chadwick Bozeman was arguably the best male actor this year in the James Brown movie.
Really enjoyed his work in "42: The Jackie Robinson Story."
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I agree 100% about the Oscar folks handing out 'makeup Oscars' after getting torched in the media for votes from previous years; after seeing The Exorcist on opening day (12-26-73) in nearby Westwood, I told an Oscar voter sitting next to me that the Academy was going to get ripped to pieces if anybody other than Ellen Burstyn won the Best Actress Oscar, which is exactly what happened after Glenda Jackson won for the lightweight A Touch Of Class.

Ms. Burstyn predictably won her 'makeup Oscar' the following year for Scorsese's Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, robbing Gena Rowlands who should have won for A Woman Under The Influence.
The "make-up Oscar" seems to happen quite a bit. I wonder when DiCaprio will finally get his because he is always snake bitten with a bunch of other actors who put a little bit better performance out in their role.
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Old 01-28-2015, 06:49 AM
 
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Until either of you can effectively establish that Halle Berry was truly the very first black actress that deserved to win after 74 years, the "race card" is applicable, whether you like it or not.
It doesn't really matter whether such a statement can be established or not. Nothing decided here will have an effect on anything having to do with the Oscars or anything else.
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Old 01-28-2015, 06:47 PM
 
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Let's face it. Some people are never happy if they are not complaining about race.

Blacks are a minority in this country. Is it really so implausible that they would be a minority in Oscar nominations? I haven't seen Selma, but is it not possible that the performances didn't wow compared to others? Does the explanation really have to be racism? Do you want quotas now in the Oscars?
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Let's face it. Some people are never happy if they are not complaining about race.

Blacks are a minority in this country. Is it really so implausible that they would be a minority in Oscar nominations? I haven't seen Selma, but is it not possible that the performances didn't wow compared to others? Does the explanation really have to be racism? Do you want quotas now in the Oscars?
It is more because there wasn't ANY African-American actors or directors were nominated unlike what we saw in past years.
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