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Old 03-02-2016, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Originally Posted by Book Lover 21 View Post
If "John Adams" were a movie instead of a mini-series, I would vote for that.
Actually I find John Adams pretty critical against certain topics at the establishment of the US, especially regarding slavery. I remember Abigail Adams (the awesome Laura Linney) said something like 'what good can come from a country that uses slaves to build the White House'.
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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A lot of Hollywood is liberal propaganda and many movies have anti-American, anti-CIA and anti-American themes. But once in a while there is a refreshing example. So what are your list of the most patriotic films and maybe a couple that had potential but didn't make it?
You misspelled 'jingoistic crap'.

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5. Red Dawn (both versions)
Never saw the first one. The second one was utterly moronic. Even aside from the basic premise, the logistics should embarrass anyone with half a clue.

The Soviets invaded with 'troop transports disguised as airliners'. Uh huh... aside from the fact that they don't look all that similar, and they travel at significantly lower speeds, there's the inane notion that suddenly one day Aeroflot apparently scheduled tons of flights where it had previously had none... and no one in the United States noticed. Uh huh...

But even dumber is the description in the film of how the Soviets invaded Alaska. How? The Russian side of the Bering Strait has some bases, but there's no road infrastructure and there are no rail links to the rest of the country. How would they get there and how would a massive invasion force be assembled without being noticed? Hello, eyes in the sky?

Then there's the fact that even if they somehow managed the greatest amphibious invasion in history, crossing the treacherous strait, they'd be... in western Alaska - with no roads and four hundred miles of braided rivers, vast wetlands, and the occasional mountain range separating them from the Alaskan road system. Tanks need roads, or at least favorable terrain (dry and open plains, for example). It would, literally, take years for Soviet armor, lead by engineers, to get as far as the Canadian border even if it wasn't being continuously bombed by U.S. and Canadian aircraft, to say nothing of them fighting all the way down to the lower 48.

Good films tell a compelling story - films that wave a flag in your face and scream that you'd better like it no matter how factually moronic it is or you hate America are for simpletons, or for those people who cannot do anything without being a raging partisan about it (you know, the weird uncle that no one wants to sit next to at holiday dinners).
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