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Old 06-17-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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A flashback that was deleted.
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And yet Gal still received billing, and Gisele is seen in a photo. And she's in three other Furious movies.

Furious 7 (2015) - Trivia - IMDb

If it's a bone of contention for you, Gal was also in Keeping Up With The Joneses, Criminal, and she had a hilarious cameo in Date Night. Her "acting ability" was never in question, yet Patty brought out the best in her. Now Gal is a "name"!


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The difference is the dated-ness don't hurt the movie (I was speaking of the Batman movie with Adam West maybe that was Batman' 68?)
Again, its relevance to the time period is part of its appeal.

Batman: The Movie (1966) - IMDb

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That said, Superman was dated. The effects look stupid and obviously wired and green-screened. It was meant to be serious but comes off as cheesy as the Batman series. I mean it came after Star Wars which even in 1977 re-wrote the book on visual effects.
By today's standards, yes, watching Chris Reeve and Margot Kidder fly together may fiddle with your ability to suspend disbelief. The redo in Superman Returns, as pointless as that film turned out to be, was visually impressive, if not quite as compelling (Bosworth was the worst Lois ever).

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I didn't feel that with Man of Steel, I just felt like you did with most Marvel villains. Not nerfing but "Why should I care, they're just gonna lose." Zod was a threat, but they made that a little too late.
If that's where you're at, you may want to stop watching films altogether.

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Most Snyder films have that same lensing and I'm not fond of it. I am not sure how well any movie of today will indeed age. I think The Watchmen will be fine due to the Blade Runner noir feel. I say this because, remember at one time Aladdin had state of the art animation with mostly hand-drawn elements but now watching it a few weeks back I noticed distinct CGI that took me out of it at times despite an amazing story. And when I say bad CGI, I mean bad CGI. Other Disney films used CGI through CAPS but not to this extent and not that unnatural. It's a reason Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is fondly remembered over Rocky & Bullwinkle (which I happen to like.) Speaking of aging, Men in Black aged fine, I saw that like two weeks ago...
Never bought into the MiB craze. But we don't all [have to] like the same things.

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But that's the point, anytime we see these DC threads you hardly ever toss that shade at DC.
And yet I've remarked at length about how lame Superman Returns is, and how sucky Green Lantern is. And guess what? I still like Batman (1989), but it's not aging well. Batman Returns is awful. I can't even watch it. I don't even bother with Batman Forever now. The one with Clooney? Let's not even talk about it.

And I just commented in the Justice League thread that I do not approve of Danny Elfman being contracted to provide the musical score. The guy hasn't done anything memorable in decades. I'm starting to sweat a little over what else Joss might be up to. I want a Justice League movie, and that means I don't want a light 'n fluffy Avengers film lurking underneath, as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

(And yes, it's pathetic that we only just now have a Wonder Woman film. But that was due to the old suits who only wanted Superman and Batman movies.)

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It is only because Marvel and DC to an extent like to have their characters mirror their media appearances.
Marvel more so. Fury is drawn to look like Sam-Jack. Coulson is drawn to look like Clark Gregg. Hawkeye is drawn to look like Renner. Widow is drawn to look like ScarJo. (Frank Miller drew Widow with shorter hair in Daredevil in the early '80s.) On the flipside, Momoa resembles the Aquaman of Peter David's run.

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For instance due to Fox owning the film rights to X-Men and Fantastic Four, they have been marginalized outside of say Kitty Pryde, X-23 (the NEW Wolverine), and the All New X-Men. Or how Scott Lang re-appeared as Ant-Man after being dead since Avengers Disassembled in 2004.
Marvel cancelled Fantastic Four outright. Fox will simply make another film down the line as an FU. Marvel sold off their film rights 20 years ago in a fire sale when the company hit doldrums. Fox even had another FF movie on their slate for this year, but since Trank's reboot was DOA, that was yanked quicker than Daffy Duck with a hook off stage right.

‘Fantastic Four’ Comics Cancelled By Marvel Before Fox Movie Launch | Deadline

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For the new Teen Titans series despite ginger Wally West being in Titans (the older Teen Titans from the 1980's,) the newer teenage Wally West is the Kid Flash for both The Flash and Teen Titans partially due to popularity but I feel because Wally West is African American on the CW show as well.
True.

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The inverse is true too. Both Fox's Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man adopted current storylines (Spider-Man with the Clone Saga and Spider-Carnage and Ultimate Spider-Man with Spider-Verse.) Fox's X-Men also adopted most of the 1991 X-Men team with a few additions and substitutions. Also if you look at the looks of the characters, they were straight off the pages and this even goes back to Pryde of the X-Men.
The first X-Men is another movie that is not aging well. No Nightcrawler. No Kitty (cameo only). No Angel. No Beast. No Colossus. No Iceman. It's like they didn't know which version of the team to start with, but figured they'd just use the most "popular" characters: Wolverine (duh), Jean Grey, Storm, Cyclops. What happened with Cyclops in X2 (not to mention X3) was inexcusable. X-Men at times has a very "TV" feel to it, too. Some of the effects look bad. The fight choreography is terrible (but Singer's has never been good, anyway). Storm's spinning was funny. But that's cool, because I can pop in First Class and watch an X-Men movie that is thirty times better.
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Old 06-17-2017, 06:12 PM
 
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There were some really great moments, the L word kind of let some of the air out it for me, but over all it was ok.
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Old 06-18-2017, 02:04 AM
 
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Thought it was a great film. The lead actress did an excellent job appearing strong, empowering and morally conscious. I didn't care for the ending---- thought it eluded a little too much towards a sequel and left a few questions un-answered. For a superhero movie----- one of the best and I really liked that there was no swearing.
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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This movie is a box office monster. After that phenomenal second-week drop, it has an estimated 40.7 million-dollar third weekend, the fourth best third-weekend tally for a live-action comic book film, and the best third-weekend drop ever for a superhero film (30 %). Just like the first two weekends, the film's estimates are expected to increase due to Father's Day likely Sunday bump. The week-to-week drops Wonder Woman is having are very rare for superhero summer blockbusters, and it is evident at this point that the word of mouth is insanely good. Because of the rate it is going, many are predicting that, despite Wonder Woman opening with less than all three previous DCEU films, it will finish with a higher US total. It could not have happened to a nicer film!!

Best 3rd Weekends for Live Action Comic Book Movies (although, as far as third-weekend tallies, Wonder Woman is fourth, the Patty Jenkins/Gal Gadot smash is # ONE in terms of best third-weekend box office drops for superhero films):

Title (Year) — Third Weekend Gross (Drop from Second Weekend)

1- Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 55.6 million (-46.0%)
2- Spider-Man (2002) — 45.0 million (-36.9%)
3- The Dark Knight (2008) — 42.7 million (-43.2%)
4- Wonder Woman (2017) — 40.8 million (-30.3%)
5-Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 38.9 million (-50.0%)
6- Iron Man 3 (2013) — 35.8 million (-50.7%)
7-The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 35.7 million (-42.5%)
8-Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 34.7 million (-46.9%)
9-Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 32.9 million (-54.7%)
10- Iron Man (2008) — 31.8 million (-37.8%)
11- Deadpool (2016) — 31.1 million (-44.9%)
12- Spider-Man 3 (2007) — 29.0 million (-50.1%)
13- Iron Man 2 (2010) — 26.4 million (-49.3%)
15- Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 25.6 million (-38.0%)
15- Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 25.1 million (-40.4%)
16- Spider-Man 2 (2004) — 24.8 million (-45.2%)
17- Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) — 23.4 million (-54.5%)
18- Suicide Squad (2016) — 20.9 million (-52.1%)
19- Man of Steel (2013) — 20.7 million (-49.8%)
20 -300 (2007) — 19.9 million (-39.6%)
Batman (1989) — 19.2 million (-36.0%)
Men in Black (1997) — 19.0 million (-36.7%)
Logan (2017) — 17.8 million (-53.3%)
Doctor Strange (2016) — 17.8 million (-58.7%)
X2: X-Men United (2003) — 17.3 million (-56.8%)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) — 16.8 million (-52.7%)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) — 16.7 million (-41.4%)
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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"Wonder Woman rises above estimates again with final [third weekend numbers] at $41.3M, off only 29% [from weekend 2] [Wonder Woman] beats 3rd weekend of the last 3 films starring Iron Man."




The wondertrain keeps chugging along!
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Wonder Woman made me feel righteous as I left the theater. I can't say that other superhero movies have done that. They've been a good deal of fun, but they didn't make me feel righteous.


In the SYFY television series "The Expanse," in the season finale the morally deficient character Amos (who is interesting because he's well aware that his moral compass is broken), tells the lead character, "Thank you. Since I've been with you, I've never had to worry if I was on the right team."


Wonder Woman was like that for Steve Trevor and ultimately for the audience.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/women-twi...142122959.html

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Women Of Twitter Roast Joss Whedon's Ridiculous 'Wonder Woman' Script

In the three weeks since its release, “Wonder Woman,” has been hailed as a female-powered success: countless think pieces and viral posts have been written about the power of seeing women’s stories on the big screen. But Hollywood’s story of Wonder Woman was almost told by Joss Whedon, the mastermind behind “Buffy the Vampire Slayer,” “The Avengers,” and “Toy Story.”

A month after his screenplay was released online, women of Twitter are tweeting their gratitude that it wasn’t Whedon’s rendition of “Wonder Woman” that made it to the big screen.

Like so many Hollywood screenplays in which men try to tell women’s stories, the language and dialogue in Whedon’s is objectifying and almost perverted, reading more like Reddit fan fiction rather than a superhero blockbuster.

Diana’s introduction in the screenplay is the first major red flag ― she’s described as “curvaceous, but taut as a drawn bow,” and in another scene, she participates in “a dance that is sensual, ethereal, and wicked sexy.”

Women on Twitter highlighted other cringe-worthy moments in their tweets.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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I never drank the Whedon Kool Aid. His Buffy, by which many feminists swear, had a lot of stuff that made me side-eye like crazy. His Avengers left me cold. Firelfy and Serenity? Yuck. And that WW script is atrocious...just ugh.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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I waited the whole movie for the WW transformation ... never happened! That was everything when I was a little girl ... LOL
How do you make a WW movie and no spin???

Boooooo.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...54&action=view
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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I waited the whole movie for the WW transformation ... never happened! That was everything when I was a little girl ... LOL
How do you make a WW movie and no spin???

Boooooo.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...54&action=view
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In the final battle, Diana spins around, in tribute to her spinning transformation in Wonder Woman (1975).

Wonder Woman (2017) - Trivia - IMDb

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