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Old 06-02-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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And so he consistently portrayed this woman as easily forced into bound submission in nearly every issue. Sometimes bound and having her bottom spanked at the same time. Sometimes bound and gagged.

She was also frequently astride tumescent bombs that everyone knew in context were not "just a cigar."
I love it when you talk dirty to me.
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Old 06-02-2017, 10:55 AM
 
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An $11M Thursday. An impressive start!

'Wonder Woman' Set to Lead Post-Memorial Day Weekend Charge - Box Office Mojo
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Yup yup. Reading the origins of Wonder Woman and her creator, it's more than a little creepy. The guy seemed like a perv.
Marston was involved with the earliest movements for women right's, including issues of voting , birth control, and career equality . With this in mind, it's no surprise that William Marston created Wonder Woman for DC Comics. He felt that women needed a symbol of power in such a changing time in women's rights. He said "Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetypes lack force, strength and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women's strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman." Wonder Woman made her first appearance in December 1941.


He also the polygraph machine. Perhaps those in bold type is what offends you.
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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^Nice quote, Reed! I used it on the previous page. Great minds think alike.
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: The point of no return, er, NorCal
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Well...I went and watched Wonder Woman last night. 7PM showing.

Short review: MARK? You're gonna LOVE it.

A fine, fine, fine origin film. Gal has been vindicated beyond a shadow of a doubt. And remember that guy Zack? Well, he's responsible for casting Gal. Both have forded the waters of resistance and emerged the victors here. Everyone, everywhere, is praising Gal's performance. It's a much better "fish out of water" movie than Thor, too. And so much more.

The principals are all fantastic. Not a weak link in the bunch! That means Gadot, Pine, Nielsen, Wright, and even Lucy Davis as Etta Candy.

Jenkins has crafted a wonderfully well-rounded film that blends naiveté, transition, jadedness, disillusionment, regret, redemption and sacrifice. In other words: the works.

And the rumors are true: the film DOES have HUMOR. And quite a bit of it. And it's not forced at all.

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With regard to some of that humor, this film even tackles the theme of sexual fulfillment. There's an early scene with Gadot and Pine that made the entire theater erupt in laughter. Kudos for Jenkins and Heinberg for tackling material that has yet to surface in a Marvel movie where it isn't treated like a lurid joke. Gadot and Pine have serious chemistry.


And, as you've seen in the trailers, yes, there's a substantial amount of slo-mo. BUT:

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While a lot of people have complained about the extended action sequences in MoS and BvS, a sentiment I do not share, the battle scenes in Wonder Woman are shorter, and equally thrilling. Naturally, the final confrontation is a bit longer.

There are two good twists in the movie, one being the "god-killer" reveal.

I also think some of the CGI could have been tweaked.
My sentiments exactly. Nicely put. The humor between WW and Steve is palpable, especially in the first act, and I loved the scene you're referring to. There are just so many great scenes and their chemistry isn't just great for a comic book movie, but for films in general. Well-rounded characters with multiple layers that make them interesting and engaging. I even teared up... more than once.

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Old 06-02-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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My sentiments exactly. Nicely put. The humor between WW and Steve is palpable, especially in the first act, and I loved the scene you're referring to. There are just so many great scenes and their chemistry isn't just great for a comic book movie, but for films in general. Well-rounded characters with multiple layers that make them interesting and engaging. I even teared up... more than once.
I concur. The film's an adventure, fantasy and drama before it's a superhero film. Which was perfect for this outing. Next, we'll see Diana in full action mode again in Justice League.
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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It is possible to be both. Marston was.
Well, he probably would have been considered a "pervert" in his day solely for his polyamorous marriage:

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Marston had a lot of help from his wife, Elizabeth Holloway (we have her to thank for “Suffering Sappho,” “Great Hera,” and other Amazonian expostulations), as well as from his former student Olive Byrne, with whom he and Holloway lived in a permanent ménage à trois that produced four children—two from each woman.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-roots/380788/
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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One other thing.

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Wonder Woman's costume reveal = one of the best EVER.
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Old 06-02-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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Just got home from seeing WW. Absolutely GREAT and I'm not a huge fan of comic book movies, so I don't know the history of the character like some of you apparently do. But from a pure entertainment perspective, it was a great day at the movies. Of course, I'd pay $ 12.50 to watch Gal Gadot wash dishes for two hours, so there is that.
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:27 PM
 
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Just came back. Time well spent. My anticipation was not wasted.

I see everyone is doing a good job not spoiling some significant reveals.

Looking back on it, it seems kind of long, but it went through some big changes from act to act. It had a basic Fifth Element theme as well.

And, yes, Gadot was worth waiting for.

But as I said before, Wonder Woman is the only true A-list female superhero, equivalent in comics stature to Superman, Batman, and Captain America. This was rather a stiff test--it would have sucked if they'd screwed it up.
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