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Old 09-19-2017, 03:48 PM
 
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The First Avenger should not have brought the Howling Commandos into Captain America's origin--they were not there in the comic origin.

However, they were a Marvel character group set in WWII, so, I was okay with that.

But Steve Trevor's "oddball commandos" were wholly created for the WW movie.

Much better: DC should have brought in a WWI version of the Blackhawk! squadron--maybe made Steve Trevor a Blackhawk instead of a spy, which would have worked because he was a pilot anyway.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:07 PM
 
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Bringing the Blackhawks into Wonder Woman would have drawn even more criticisms where the Commandos are concerned, though.

Steve's buddies were a couple goofballs, plus a really cool character (who is not what he seems) played by Eugene Brave Rock--nothing of the sort is present in Cap/SHIELD/Marvel, etc.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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Bringing the Blackhawks into Wonder Woman would have drawn even more criticisms where the Commandos are concerned, though.

Steve's buddies were a couple goofballs, plus a really cool character (who is not what he seems) played by Eugene Brave Rock--nothing of the sort is present in Cap/SHIELD/Marvel, etc.
Yeah, but bringing in the Blackhawk! squadron would have been really, really cool...and Blackhawk! was a real WWII comic.

I've heard a rumor that when the Chief was speaking to Wonder Woman, it was in a Native American dialect in which he revealed that he was actually a Native American demigod himself.
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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Yeah, but bringing in the Blackhawk! squadron would have been really, really cool...and Blackhawk! was a real WWII comic.

Maybe in some future movie. It was best that the focus remained on Wonder Woman.

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I've heard a rumor that when the Chief was speaking to Wonder Woman, it was in a Native American dialect in which he revealed that he was actually a Native American demigod himself.
Correct.

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Chief's (Eugene Brave Rock) first words to Wonder Woman are, "Oki, niitaniiko Napi" in Blackfoot. This means, "Hello, my name is Napi." Napi, in Blackfoot mythology, is a creator being and trickster; he is known for being very clever and resourceful. The filmmakers have confirmed that the Chief is in fact a god.

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Old 09-19-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Nobody is "butthurt." The thing is, you have an issue with two characters created during wartime whose initial stories were written during wartime.

For Wonder Woman, they engineered the story to commence during WWI, not WWII. That's a huge difference, right off the bat.

Diana was born to a world of warriors to be a warrior ever since she was a little girl. That's not the lifestyle Steve Rogers grew up in.

Diana accompanied a mortal man to our world to track down and kill Ares. Steve Rogers didn't enlist to fight the Red Skull. He submitted to the Super Soldier program so he could be chemically transformed into the soldier he felt he was inside. Diana wasn't transformed into anything. Her powers were dormant.

Wonder Woman the movie is largely derived from George Perez's 1987 reboot. You may want to go back and read it if you honestly think the movie is a ginormous ripoff.


Many comics did the same with 911 it was ripping anyone off just relaying what's going on at said time.
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Old 09-20-2017, 06:25 AM
 
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Correct.

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Chief's (Eugene Brave Rock) first words to Wonder Woman are, "Oki, niitaniiko Napi" in Blackfoot. This means, "Hello, my name is Napi." Napi, in Blackfoot mythology, is a creator being and trickster; he is known for being very clever and resourceful. The filmmakers have confirmed that the Chief is in fact a god.
Wait. Time out. I remember that Diana had been educated on Themyscira to speak many of the world's major languages. But Blackfoot? That's fairly obscure. Only a few thousand native speakers remain. How could Diana understand him??? Did I miss a plot point?
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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Wait. Time out. I remember that Diana had been educated on Themyscira to speak many of the world's major languages. But Blackfoot? That's fairly obscure. Only a few thousand native speakers remain. How could Diana understand him??? Did I miss a plot point?
Only that Diana's education was far more intensive, at least with languages (which was amply demonstrated) than you thought.


And her language training may have concentrated on human languages also spoken by other gods.
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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And her language training may have concentrated on human languages also spoken by other gods.
I'll buy that.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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Wait. Time out. I remember that Diana had been educated on Themyscira to speak many of the world's major languages. But Blackfoot? That's fairly obscure. Only a few thousand native speakers remain. How could Diana understand him??? Did I miss a plot point?
What Ralph said, plus Blackfoot is an Algonquian language. It was one of the languages spoken by tribes of the Great Plains nations. At one time, their numbers were many.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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Aaa... aaa... aaa... choooo! (mk must have not understood the second half of post #624. )

Also, mk never did answer my question as to if he thinks that DC and Warner Bros. should have entirely changed the premise of Wonder Woman.
Read the post 624 replied to, I had said nice ad him, I don't reply to ad home which you've done elsewhere to me.
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