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Old 07-18-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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It was in one of the NextGen movies. Can't remember which one. The one where Data died, I think.
Star Trek: Nemesis, the last of the TNG movies.
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Old 07-18-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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It may take a very long time but I expect that someday we will develop the ability to explore space beyond the next 500 million miles or so.

Seems like it will be quite dangerous. Space is a pretty hostile environment with no rescue possibilities.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:10 AM
 
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It may take a very long time but I expect that someday we will develop the ability to explore space beyond the next 500 million miles or so.

Seems like it will be quite dangerous. Space is a pretty hostile environment with no rescue possibilities.
Yup. And when that day comes, I seriously doubt the crew will be zipping about in dune buggies and motorcycles. Especially in an age of anti-gravity.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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Yup. And when that day comes, I seriously doubt the crew will be zipping about in dune buggies and motorcycles. Especially in an age of anti-gravity.
Now, about those AT-ATs...
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Old 07-18-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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Yup. And when that day comes, I seriously doubt the crew will be zipping about in dune buggies and motorcycles. Especially in an age of anti-gravity.
I think Heinlein's "Tunnel in the Sky" and "Firefly" may have it right...there will be spaceships and simultaneously on many planets still beasts of burden.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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Now, about those AT-ATs...
Preachin to the choir.

That said ... the rules are different for STAR WARS, because STAR WARS isn't science fiction. It is unabashed Fantasy in space. It has more in common with Camelot than Clarke. STAR TREK is science fiction. I expect more smart out of STAR TREK.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:17 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I think Heinlein's "Tunnel in the Sky" and "Firefly" may have it right...there will be spaceships and simultaneously on many planets still beasts of burden.
In Time Enough For Love he had settlers using modified mules on a new planet. They were able to reproduce and had higher intelligence than the originals, and could speak to some extent. "Shupper dime!"
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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That said ... the rules are different for STAR WARS, because STAR WARS isn't science fiction. It is unabashed Fantasy in space. It has more in common with Camelot than Clarke.
Correctamundo.

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STAR TREK is science fiction. I expect more smart out of STAR TREK.
Same here. That's why Into Darkness was so disappointing. Beaming all the way up to a distant planet was really stretching it, and rendered other goings-on pointless.
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Old 07-18-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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Same here. That's why Into Darkness was so disappointing. Beaming all the way up to a distant planet was really stretching it, and rendered other goings-on pointless.
A cowboy movie in space had points?
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Old 07-18-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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A cowboy movie in space had points?
Exactly. It was a western in space, which is territory best left to Star Wars. We don't want/need that in Trek.
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