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Old 07-27-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Susan Hayward screen tested for 'Gone With The Wind'. Along with many others......


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Old 07-27-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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Susan Hayward screen tested for 'Gone With The Wind'. Along with many others......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xmfLHXiAhA
Yes she did Dave.. dont think it would ever have been the same though.. they didnt find Viviene until the filming of the fire.. or so its said.. lovely actress .
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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Yes she did Dave.. dont think it would ever have been the same though.. they didnt find Viviene until the filming of the fire.. or so its said.. lovely actress .
I don't think any actress of that time, could have done a better job than Vivien Leigh. She holds GWTW together with her fantastic performance.

Bette Davis reckoned that she and Errol Flynn were wanted by David O Selznick for the film in 1937. She said Jack Warner turned him down, so he then went looking elsewhere. You never can tell with Bette Davis, what is truth, and what is the truth in her eyes.......

If she was right, it would have been a very different film.
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:40 PM
 
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Bette Davis was very upset to lose out on Gone With The Wind, and stamped her little foot. Jack Warner found her a good Southern story to improve her mood. The film was called 'Jezebel.'

A fortune was thrown to make a movie in the spirit of 'Gone With The Wind', a year before that film was released.

Jack gave Bette the best money could buy. A good story, great director in William Wyler, and just beautiful black and white photography. Davis rose to the challenge, and gave one of the best performances of her career.........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFg2HYp6-CQ

This film ushered in Bette Davis's time in the sun. From this time in 1938, through to 1945, she gave the public almost all the movies she is remembered for to this day. The only exception is 'All About Eve' in 1951. By then, she had left Warner Brothers.

She lived on that memory of those seven great years for the rest of her acting career. Her best work was for directors like William Wyler. He knew how to bring the best out of her, and restrain her from her desire to chew the scenery. In some films with lesser directors, Davis can be quite wild, and out of control acting wise. But, she remembered her work with him fondly........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZMUXYPPMbw

She became in time, what was known as a Hollywood legend. There weren't many, but she was one of that select band. She grew to like this with the passing years.........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7TvjmtSJk
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:15 AM
 
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The 1930s was a golden age for the American movie. It was also a golden age for women in Hollywood. They had films built around them, known as 'vehicles.' What women acting today would give to have this same thing.

There were lots of women stars in the 30s. Many now forgotten. Helen Twelvetrees, Kay Francis, Miriam Hopkins, Nancy Carroll, Ruth Chatterton, and many, many others.

A few, with real guts survived into the 40s and beyond. Just a few. Barbara Stanwyck was among them. She started out in the pre-code era, and made some good films. 'Baby Face' set the tone......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NkcRllnmFo

She moved on to tear jerkers like 'Stella Dallas'. She sent her daughter away for a better life. Years later, she is out in the cold watching her daughter get married.........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZOpBTJbGwg

She moved on to playing femme fatale's in film noir in the 40s.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKdcYnlkhx8

She worked on, sometimes in work beneath her talent. In the 1960s, she moved into television. Billed as MISS Barbara Stanwyck. A legend is being born.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA1l8u3-q20

Into her old age, as powerful as ever.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGRGYOSXiqg

The long service awards came her way, and she accepted with good grace. Here getting an honorary Oscar. Even then, she paid tribute to her good friend William Holden.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBhPI95FDZw

It was a sometimes hard rocky road for those female stars of the 30s. Happiness in their private lives seemed to evade them somehow. They were powerful personalities, and it showed in their films. But, a few are remembered long after their deaths, and their greatest performances cross the years, and still interest many of us today. Barbara Stanwyck was one of the best.


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Old 07-28-2016, 01:29 AM
 
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Back in the early 1960s Disneyland used to have a penny arcade. You could watch a really old silent b & w film for a penny. And if I recall correctly you turned the crank which made the movie go faster or slower.

It was a trip!




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Old 07-28-2016, 01:31 AM
 
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Even her ex husband Robert Taylor praised her acting abilities after they had split.. watched her the other night in Stella Dallas.. great performance when she plays the embarrassing brash mother. I read about Barbara and its said that she was one of the nicest people to work with, she got on with all the crew on her films.. the only person she didnt seem to get on with was Lee Majors who played her son in the TV western... and I can understand why....she also had a four or five year affair with Robert Wagner.. but as you say many of the female celebs of that time were unhappy in relationships and most eneded up on their own like Ava Gardner and other famous actresses....Its said Barbara never got over losing Robert Taylor.. http://www.leemajors.co.uk/a/stanwyck_dis.html

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Old 07-28-2016, 01:33 AM
 
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I don't think any actress of that time, could have done a better job than Vivien Leigh. She holds GWTW together with her fantastic performance.

Bette Davis reckoned that she and Errol Flynn were wanted by David O Selznick for the film in 1937. She said Jack Warner turned him down, so he then went looking elsewhere. You never can tell with Bette Davis, what is truth, and what is the truth in her eyes.......

If she was right, it would have been a very different film.
Might have been a firecracker, she was good in Jezebel..oh that red dress......
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:57 AM
 
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Back in the early 1960s Disneyland used to have a penny arcade. You could watch a really old silent b & w film for a penny. And if I recall correctly you turned the crank which made the movie go faster or slower.

It was a trip!
I have heard of that early filmed version of 'Frankenstein', but had never seen it...... thanks red!...

I believe there was also a version of 'The Wizard of Oz' made back in the silent days, starring Oliver Hardy.

The early days of movies are very interesting to movie buffs. Most aren't of great interest to a modern audience, but a few still hold the attention. Erich von Stroheim's are excellent.

One of the delicious ironies of 'Sunset Boulevard', is how Billy Wilder used Stroheim and Gloria Swanson.

In the movie, Stroheim plays Swanson's butler. While she is entertaining her new young beau, she orders the butler to play one of her old silent movies. He obeys, and the movie Swanson watches with William Holden, is supposed to be one of her character's early roles, when she was a star.

The movie playing is 'Queen Kelly'. This film was never released in America, because while Swanson was making it, 20 years before 'Sunset Boulevard', she had the director fired. The director in real life was Erich von Stroheim........ The film was never completed. It did get some kind of release in 1932 in Europe and South America. Swanson herself directed a new ending.

Here is Gloria herself talking about 'Queen Kelly'......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acwhHgCjOtk
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:03 AM
 
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I have heard of that early filmed version of 'Frankenstein', but had never seen it...... thanks red!...

I believe there was also a version of 'The Wizard of Oz' made back in the silent days, starring Oliver Hardy.

The early days of movies are very interesting to movie buffs. Most aren't of great interest to a modern audience, but a few still hold the attention. Erich von Stroheim's are excellent.

One of the delicious ironies of 'Sunset Boulevard', is how Billy Wilder used Stroheim and Gloria Swanson.

In the movie, Stroheim plays Swanson's butler. While she is entertaining her new young beau, she orders the butler to play one of her old silent movies. He obeys, and the movie Swanson watches with William Holden, is supposed to be one of her character's early roles, when she was a star.

The movie playing is 'Queen Kelly'. This film was never released in America, because while Swanson was making it, 20 years before 'Sunset Boulevard', she had the director fired. The director in real life was Erich von Stroheim........ The film was never completed. It did get some kind of release in 1932 in Europe and South America. Swanson herself directed a new ending.

Here is Gloria herself talking about 'Queen Kelly'......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acwhHgCjOtk
very intersting Dave.... didnt know that..... Gloria was the main squeeze for JFKs dad..
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