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Old 07-28-2016, 04:09 AM
 
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Even her ex husband Robert Taylor praised her acting abilities after they had split.. watched her the other night in Stella Dallas.. great performance when she plays the embarrassing brash mother. I read about Barbara and its said that she was one of the nicest people to work with, she got on with all the crew on her films.. the only person she didnt seem to get on with was Lee Majors who played her son in the TV western... and I can understand why....she also had a four or five year affair with Robert Wagner.. but as you say many of the female celebs of that time were unhappy in relationships and most eneded up on their own like Ava Gardner and other famous actresses....Its said Barbara never got over losing Robert Taylor.. CYBORG:Lee Majors Online | Press Room | Why Barbara Stanwyck Dislikes Lee Majors - and What He Did To Deserve It
Morning dizzy...... 'Stella Dallas' is a great film, and Barbara Stanwyck is fabulous in it. She had a great reputation with follow workers. She was known to be very friendly with the 'little' people in the movies. The electricians, set builders...... all those sort. She would sit with them at lunch time, and enjoy their company.

This was very unusual, as most stars went back to their dressing rooms, or trailers during breaks from shooting. She was also very kind to newcomers to film acting, and would help them learn the ropes. Just a great dame.

I think Robert Taylor was her one true love, which she carried to the end. They were complex people those old time movie stars.......

Ava Gardner spent many years wandering Europe, especially Spain. She was always looking for the exciting, and the new. While I was in southern Spain late last year, I went for a walk round back of the hotel. I came across a long avenue, lined with trees. It was called, as I remember, 'Alle Ava Gardner.' She sure must have made an impression on the Spanish all those years ago.
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:15 AM
 
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very intersting Dave.... didnt know that..... Gloria was the main squeeze for JFKs dad..
That's true dizzy...... he bankrolled 'Queen Kelly.'........
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:38 AM
 
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That's true dizzy...... he bankrolled 'Queen Kelly.'........
oh here we go again a bit of gossip.. harmless now though.. hahaha.. I couldnt go the woman at all she terrified me. and wonder if the wicked Queen in snowhite was modelled on Gloria.. she looked so like her
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:42 AM
 
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Morning dizzy...... 'Stella Dallas' is a great film, and Barbara Stanwyck is fabulous in it. She had a great reputation with follow workers. She was known to be very friendly with the 'little' people in the movies. The electricians, set builders...... all those sort. She would sit with them at lunch time, and enjoy their company.

This was very unusual, as most stars went back to their dressing rooms, or trailers during breaks from shooting. She was also very kind to newcomers to film acting, and would help them learn the ropes. Just a great dame.

I think Robert Taylor was her one true love, which she carried to the end. They were complex people those old time movie stars.......

Ava Gardner spent many years wandering Europe, especially Spain. She was always looking for the exciting, and the new. While I was in southern Spain late last year, I went for a walk round back of the hotel. I came across a long avenue, lined with trees. It was called, as I remember, 'Alle Ava Gardner.' She sure must have made an impression on the Spanish all those years ago.
did you get photos Dave... thats so interesting... I love the old movies and anything to do with them... seh had a thing with some matador didnt she... I saw Mickey Rooney in Glasgow a few years back.. in his own show.. it was wonderful to listen to him and a lot of things were related to Ava. he had a big screen behind him with her picture on it... just hope his wife wasnt offended. she was with him onstage.. At the end him and her were out the back selling CDs but my hubby rushed me out the place and Id love to have met Mickey......He said he would come back to Glasgow but of course he never got round to it.... a very talented man who spoke about his father coming from Glasgow and that he d gone looking for his tenement home.. Just found this... http://www.zoonar.com/photo/bronze-s...n_5217047.html

Frank couldnt have been all bad..
After a lifetime of smoking, Gardner suffered from emphysema, as well as an unidentified auto-immune disorder. Two strokes in 1986 left her partially paralyzed and bedridden. Although Gardner could afford her medical expenses, Sinatra wanted to pay for her visit to a specialist in the United States, and she allowed him to make the arrangements for a medically staffed private plane. She suffered a bad fall a week before she died, and she lay on the floor, alone and unable to move, until her housekeeper returned. Her last words (to her housekeeper) were reportedly "I'm so tired". She died of pneumonia at the age of 67, at her London home, 34 Ennismore Gardens, where she had lived since 1968.

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Old 07-28-2016, 05:30 AM
 
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did you get photos Dave... thats so interesting... I love the old movies and anything to do with them... seh had a thing with some matador didnt she... I saw Mickey Rooney in Glasgow a few years back.. in his own show.. it was wonderful to listen to him and a lot of things were related to Ava. he had a big screen behind him with her picture on it... just hope his wife wasnt offended. she was with him onstage.. At the end him and her were out the back selling CDs but my hubby rushed me out the place and Id love to have met Mickey......He said he would come back to Glasgow but of course he never got round to it.... a very talented man who spoke about his father coming from Glasgow and that he d gone looking for his tenement home.. Just found this... Photo Bronze Statue Of Ava Gardner Tossa De mar Spain Image #5217047

Frank couldnt have been all bad..
After a lifetime of smoking, Gardner suffered from emphysema, as well as an unidentified auto-immune disorder. Two strokes in 1986 left her partially paralyzed and bedridden. Although Gardner could afford her medical expenses, Sinatra wanted to pay for her visit to a specialist in the United States, and she allowed him to make the arrangements for a medically staffed private plane. She suffered a bad fall a week before she died, and she lay on the floor, alone and unable to move, until her housekeeper returned. Her last words (to her housekeeper) were reportedly "I'm so tired". She died of pneumonia at the age of 67, at her London home, 34 Ennismore Gardens, where she had lived since 1968.
I did see the photos dizzy...... beautiful clothes. I went to an exhibition of movie costumes in New York City many years ago. There was clothing there worn by people like Vivien Leigh, and Bette Davis. I was amazed how slim they must have been!

I saw Mickey do the same show. He had his wife Jan with him also. He talked a lot about Ava Gardner, which like you, I thought odd with his current wife being there....... Unlike you, I did meet him after the show, but only for a short chat.

Mickey Rooney, was probably the most talented man who ever worked in front of a Hollywood camera. He could act, sing and dance, and play many musical instruments well. But, like many he had his faults. Gambling on the horses was his weakness in his younger days.

I read a great story about Mickey when he was a young man. He, Phil Silvers, and some other famous people visited a brothel. They had a bet between themselves on who would be with her the longest if you get my drift...... they trooped in one by one, and the time spent with her was noted. Mickey went in last. He was in there half an hour. The other guys were impressed, and paid up. The girl herself showed her face, and the guys said how impressed they were with young Mickey, and his endurance of a half hour. She laughed, and said, "we had 25 minutes of Mickey telling jokes, singing and dancing, then five minutes of sex......"........

Sinatra never got over Ava Gardner. Couldn't live with her, and couldn't live without her. But, thanks to her, we got the more tortured Sinatra of his recording years at Capitol Records. The best music he ever made was during and after Ava Gardner. She must have been some gal. I can just imagine Sinatra and Mickey Rooney running into each other, and the only thing they had in common to talk about, was Ava Gardner....... Although, unlike Mickey, Frank didn't take his golf clubs, and table tennis set with him on honeymoon with Ava.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq4_BXwpmQ8
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:43 AM
 
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I did see the photos dizzy...... beautiful clothes. I went to an exhibition of movie costumes in New York City many years ago. There was clothing there worn by people like Vivien Leigh, and Bette Davis. I was amazed how slim they must have been!

I saw Mickey do the same show. He had his wife Jan with him also. He talked a lot about Ava Gardner, which like you, I thought odd with his current wife being there....... Unlike you, I did meet him after the show, but only for a short chat.

Mickey Rooney, was probably the most talented man who ever worked in front of a Hollywood camera. He could act, sing and dance, and play many musical instruments well. But, like many he had his faults. Gambling on the horses was his weakness in his younger days.

I read a great story about Mickey when he was a young man. He, Phil Silvers, and some other famous people visited a brothel. They had a bet between themselves on who would be with her the longest if you get my drift...... they trooped in one by one, and the time spent with her was noted. Mickey went in last. He was in there half an hour. The other guys were impressed, and paid up. The girl herself showed her face, and the guys said how impressed they were with young Mickey, and his endurance of a half hour. She laughed, and said, "we had 25 minutes of Mickey telling jokes, singing and dancing, then five minutes of sex......"........

Sinatra never got over Ava Gardner. Couldn't live with her, and couldn't live without her. But, thanks to her, we got the more tortured Sinatra of his recording years at Capitol Records. The best music he ever made was during and after Ava Gardner. She must have been some gal. I can just imagine Sinatra and Mickey Rooney running into each other, and the only thing they had in common to talk about, was Ava Gardner....... Although, unlike Mickey, Frank didn't take his golf clubs, and table tennis set with him on honeymoon with Ava.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq4_BXwpmQ8
No I meant did you get photos of the alley called after Ava haha.. oh you saw that show too.. I loved it, we had the second front row.. and noticed they both wore very thick soled shoes was that in case of an electric shock I wonder...but Im so glad I got to see him... as he was old even then..but what a talent the wee man was in his day... as you say he could do it all.. and on roller skates too...at the time of the show he mentioned Night at the Museum that had just come out and he had a part in... but I was disappointed in the lines he was given in the film as he is much better than that... but he still worked and did what he loved and thats what matters..a one off and one of the greats..
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:47 AM
 
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Slightly off topic, but as Sinatra was a movie star in the 40s, not too far...... During the height of his tortuous affair, and marriage to Ava Gardner, he recorded this song. Witnesses said he broke down and cried at the end of the recording.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXBZUbRkurE
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:53 AM
 
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Slightly off topic, but as Sinatra was a movie star in the 40s, not too far...... During the height of his tortuous affair, and marriage to Ava Gardner, he recorded this song. Witnesses said he broke down and cried at the end of the recording.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXBZUbRkurE
Often wonder if his first wife would have taken him back after Ava as she never remarried but her and Frank remained friends, but then it seems he kept friendly with most of his ex s .
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Old 07-28-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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I remember reading how Frank ruined Tommy Sands career

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Sheila Wallace (14 April 1974 - ?) (divorced) (1 child)
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When he divorced Frank Sinatra's daughter, Nancy Sinatra, Sinatra allegedly saw to it that Tommy's blooming career went permanently on the rocks.
Ex-son-in-law of Frank Sinatra.
Ex-brother-in-law of Frank Sinatra Jr. and Tina Sinatra.
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Old 07-28-2016, 06:04 AM
 
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Often wonder if his first wife would have taken him back after Ava as she never remarried but her and Frank remained friends, but then it seems he kept friendly with most of his ex s .
Yes...... he never stopped loving his first wife especially. He and Nancy remained close to the end of his life. He told his daughter Nancy, he regretted leaving her mother for Ava Gardner. I have seen a photo of Frank embracing his first wife in his old age, shortly before he died.

Nancy Snr is still alive, and is 98 years old.
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