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Old Yesterday, 04:06 PM
 
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Yup. Even George Lucas has admitted this. Disney wanted a guaranteed hit and mandated it be a back-to-basics "do over" of ANH.
George Lucas says new Star Wars film is not how he envisioned it | Daily Mail Online

J.J. Abrams Explains The Force Awakens and A New Hope Similarities
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Old Yesterday, 06:07 PM
 
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There are a number you can point to, even in Star Wars itself. Attack of the Clones wasn't super dark (and I say that as a fan of that movie), as was Jurassic Park 3 (and I hate that movie) nor was Iron Man 2. Both of these movies suffer from darker third acts. Iron Man 3's PTSD > Iron Man 2's alcoholism and Revenge of the Sith's death of the Jedi, rise of the Sith and anointing of Emperor Palpatine > Attack of the Clones' ominous Dark Side leaning end. I have a feeling even with how dark Thor: The Dark World went, Thor: Ragnarok will go darker. I also don't recall Rocky 2 being dark, yet Rocky 3 rattled Rocky with a defeat AND the loss of his trainer at the same time. Then you have ones that are more fun than dark like oh say, The Lost World: Jurassic Park to Jurassic Park.

I'm just saying here. I realize MOST times, the mid is the darkest.
That's where my use of the word "usually" comes it.

The Star Wars prequels are each progressively darker, as was intended, inasmuch as they must finally end with the victory of the Sith.

The Jurassic Park, Rocky, Thor, and Iron Man movies can't be said to be trilogies in that they don't begin, continue, and end a basic storyline.
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Old Today, 06:07 AM
 
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Abrams: “[‘The Force Awakens’] was a bridge and a kind of reminder; the audience needed to be reminded what ‘Star Wars’ is, but it needed to be established with something familiar..."

Translation: "Disney said it had to be like A New Hope, and hey, it was a big check, so I said yes."

The audience needed to be reminded what STAR WARS is? Pfah. That isn't even good spin.
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Old Today, 09:50 AM
 
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The audience "needed to be reminded" of what is arguably the most popular SF/sci-fantasy film/book/cartoon franchise of all time.

Yeah. Right.

No, Disney wanted to play it safe, i.e. ensure a humongous payday.
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Old Today, 07:40 PM
 
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So I watched the trailer. And I'm feel a little better about the new trilogy's prospects.

For me the force awakens was....ok. Good action sci-fi movie but nothing amazing. Actually though the book for force awakens helps out the movie experience because it explain some of the wtf moments in the movie. Not all but at least some.

But this trailer gives me a little more hope that the movie won't be just darker but more philosophical. And that it will delve into more legends material. Epecailly concerning the ancient dai bendu and the je'daii orders and their views philosophies about the force.

We will see.


Oh and I love AT-ATs. Are they most probably the most impractical weapon of war ever? Yes. Yes they are. But are they still AWESOME to my inner 8 year old (the age when I first saw empire). The answer again is yes. And remember at the end of the day those any and all impractical weapons of war in the film are there to sell toys. And boy....I think we can say that venture was successful.

https://youtu.be/07zLbgXElsA
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Old Today, 07:44 PM
 
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So I watched the trailer. And I'm feel a little better about the new trilogy's prospects.

For me the force awakens was....ok. Good action sci-fi movie but nothing amazing. Actually though the book for force awakens helps out the movie experience because it explain some of the wtf moments in the movie. Not all but at least some.

But this trailer gives me a little more hope that the movie won't be just darker but more philosophical. And that it will delve into more legends material. Epecailly concerning the ancient dai bendu and the je'daii orders and their views philosophies about the force.

We will see.


Oh and I love AT-ATs. Are they most probably the most impractical weapon of war ever? Yes. Yes they are. But are they still AWESOME to my inner 8 year old (the age when I first saw empire). The answer again is yes. And remember at the end of the day those impractical weapons of war in the film are there to sell toys. And boy....I think we can say that venture was successful.

https://youtu.be/07zLbgXElsA
Kind of where I'm at too, a realized balance between both the light and dark side of things, and perhaps Ray will be the apprentice in a new way of the force.
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