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Old 06-07-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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Yes, I know that Brits have always been in the industry. But they never dominated the industry. Seriously, we have black American actors being replaced by British black actors and even Samuel L. Jackson had to say something about that.

Yes, that is becoming an issue, particularly because the black Brits are even snotty about it.
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Old 06-07-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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Yes, that is becoming an issue, particularly because the black Brits are even snotty about it.
They are? If true, that would anger black Americans. But yes, it does take black Americans to say something because they're proly hurt worse by this considering that tv and movie roles are already competitive for them on a national scale but to have black Brits come in and take parts that call for an American accent.

If a white actor said this, they'd be hounded as a nativist but thank God for Samuel L Jackson.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Starting in the 1950's, Hollywood seemed to settle on a formula for all Roman Empire related films. The Roman aristocrats all were played by Brits with upper crust accents. The Roman plebians and common soldiers were all played by Brits with Cockney accents, and the slaves and barbarians were all played by Americans with American accents.

They have followed this dynamic so closely and consistently that it is burned into our brains. When we see the Roman soldier, we fully expect him to say ..'Ere now, Centurion, 'e's dead...and would be discombobulated if he didn't. We expect the Roman senator to sound like James Mason, we expect the slave to sound like Gary Cooper.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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Starting in the 1950's, Hollywood seemed to settle on a formula for all Roman Empire related films. The Roman aristocrats all were played by Brits with upper crust accents. The Roman plebians and common soldiers were all played by Brits with Cockney accents, and the slaves and barbarians were all played by Americans with American accents.

They have followed this dynamic so closely and consistently that it is burned into our brains. When we see the Roman soldier, we fully expect him to say ..'Ere now, Centurion, 'e's dead...and would be discombobulated if he didn't. We expect the Roman senator to sound like James Mason, we expect the slave to sound like Gary Cooper.
Nazis with and other fascists (such as galactic empire officers) with the "posh" British accent also don't seem to bother us. Basically, Americans tend to associate the posh British accent with "elitism" and don't mind it from any character that is expected to be elitist.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:31 PM
 
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Basically, Americans tend to associate the posh British accent with "elitism" and don't mind it from any character that is expected to be elitist.
I think that you are correct with the above.
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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Irish Brosnon was I believe is the only real foreign Bond. The rest were Brits.
George Lazenby, who played Bond in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service," was Australian.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:04 PM
 
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Crocodile Dundee. Didn't that star an Aussie?
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:44 PM
 
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George Lazenby, who played Bond in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service," was Australian.
Do you think Brits would care if an American played Bond? Somehow I think they'd give a pass to a person from a commonwealth nation. Maybe a South African too, but an American? What do you think?

And I didn't just mean a few character here and there but a running trend of many British heroes being American. Or how funny would Brits find it if a movie was set in small town England and there was a random American who was the mayor or what not?
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Old 06-07-2017, 07:23 PM
 
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Do you think Brits would care if an American played Bond? Somehow I think they'd give a pass to a person from a commonwealth nation. Maybe a South African too, but an American? What do you think?

And I didn't just mean a few character here and there but a running trend of many British heroes being American. Or how funny would Brits find it if a movie was set in small town England and there was a random American who was the mayor or what not?
What I haven't heard is a reason why it matters.
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Old Yesterday, 04:01 AM
 
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I don't think so. The producers have been pretty sancrosect about keeping the Bond actors British...although the only Bond of the correct specific ethnic group (Scottish) was Connery.
Pierce Brosnan is Irish, George Lazenby is Australian, they're not British.
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