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Old 06-09-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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A. They don't. They just don't. The numbers don't show it, unless you want to cherry pick for the pictures that meet your own criteria.

B. It's not just "Hollywood" anymore. The top motion pictures are international productions both before and behind the cameras.
Do you really need a graph to tell you that in the past decade Brits and Aussies and other commonwealth actors have taken a lot of iconic American roles? Seriously? You have not noticed that a lot of American iconic character and heroes have been played by Brits?

Put it this way, no one batted an eye when Batman, Superman or Spiderman were played by a Brit, same with MLK Jr. BUT it would make headlines if they cast the first American Bond. There would be a little debate about it, nothing serious, but people would notice. Which is my point, not that it's a bad thing overall, but that this is something that isn't in just people's heads.

I don't get the point you're trying to make
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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How is a movie filmed in the UK an American movie?

"Hollywood" is an international industry now, making films that are intended to appeal to a broad international audience and which are financed and created by people from all over the world. Nothing coming out of any of the major studios is truly an American movie any more. To find that, you have to look past "Hollywood' and at the small studios and independent filmmakers.
But its not just international movies set in far off international lands. It could be a small budget indie horror film like Get Out which was the first firing shot for someone to bring this point up. The first one should've been Selma.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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How is a movie filmed in the UK an American movie?

"Hollywood" is an international industry now, making films that are intended to appeal to a broad international audience and which are financed and created by people from all over the world. Nothing coming out of any of the major studios is truly an American movie any more. To find that, you have to look past "Hollywood' and at the small studios and independent filmmakers.
Wonder Women, Superman, Star Wars, MLK are all AMERICAN heroes and movies. It doesnt matter where it is filmed.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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Wonder Women, Superman, Star Wars, MLK are all AMERICAN heroes and movies. It doesnt matter where it is filmed.
The original Star Wars was shot in the UK, as was Batman '89. No major Brits playing the leading star/heroes in those movies.

Who ever the agents are for these British actors today, Americans need to find them.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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Wonder Women, Superman, Star Wars, MLK are all AMERICAN heroes and movies. It doesnt matter where it is filmed.
Wonder Woman is an Amazon, Superman is a Kryptonian, both are illegal aliens in the US. Star Wars takes place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."

MLK, you may have a point, but we also have to see who auditioned and what the auditions looked like.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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Wonder Woman is an Amazon, Superman is a Kryptonian, both are illegal aliens in the US. Star Wars takes place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."

MLK, you may have a point, but we also have to see who auditioned and what the auditions looked like.
Oh come off it, you know that they're traditionally American icons. Superman didn't say for truth, justice and the Kryptonian way.

What about Batman and Spiderman?
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Yeah there is no Americana heartland imagery in Clark Kent being born in a small Kansas farmtown? No Christian iconography and no patriotic flagwaving. C'mon, man! LOL.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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Yeah there is no Americana heartland imagery in Clark Kent being born in a small Kansas farmtown? No Christian iconography and no patriotic flagwaving. C'mon, man! LOL.
Kal-El (who was later given the name Clark kent by his adopted parents) was born on Krypton. And a good deal of the comic book mythos around him is concerned with how he is forever a "stranger in a strange land" despite having grown up in Smallville.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Kal-El (who was later given the name Clark kent by his adopted parents) was born on Krypton. And a good deal of the comic book mythos around him is concerned with how he is forever a "stranger in a strange land" despite having grown up in Smallville.
An American immigrants story. You guys are grasping actually trying to say that Superman is not an American icon.

And yes, good catch, he was raised in Kansas but born on Krypton.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:51 PM
 
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Not surprisingly, it was hatched by a pair of men from Cleveland, Joe Schuster and Jerry Siegel, whose parents themselves were immigrants from Europe looking for a new start in North America.

Since they created the Man of Steel in the 1930s, "the core narrative in Superman has been and continues to be the values and belief about the U.S. experience being strong enough and good enough to address the troubles facing the generation engaged with the character," says Julian Chambliss, a history professor at Rollins College in Winter Park, Fla., who specializes in superheroes and the American experience.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...rsary/2368055/
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