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Old 02-24-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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Interesting quote from J.J. Abrams from: "Solo" Fun, Episode IX Shoot & Videos - Dark Horizons :



Just think about that for half a moment. Studios commit millions, build sets, hire actors, hire hundreds of crew members, and start making a movie oftentimes without a script.

That explains why so many movies (not just the recent STAR WARS movies) are of such poor quality. Story doesn't matter to the studios. It's all product. Widgets. Or porgs.
gahhhh

yeh i am having a few arguments with people about just this sort of things with a LOT of successful movies or hsall we say some suppsely succesful movies......- many which seemingly are shot like a comedies

and god knows those ****ing things look like the director is just doing an improv excercise with the actors

"you guys just be funny and we will roll ....in post we will edit it all down and make it fit it will be brilliant




it will be the best Ghostbusters movie ever......."
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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It was obvious that the script doesn't matter with these new movies. It's more about "how much Star Wars-y stuff can we cram onscreen at once to sell da toys??"
And toy sales aren't doing so well.
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Old 02-24-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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And toy sales aren't doing so well.
Kids just don't play as much with toys anymore.
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Old 02-24-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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Kids just don't play as much with toys anymore.
Is this due to computer and console gaming?
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:08 PM
 
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Is this due to computer and console gaming?
Yes, electronic diversions--add children's tablets to the list.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:56 AM
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Star Wars 7 and 8 are the same story lines as its predecessors. Having seen such before, I didn't care much for these 2 nor the upcoming. I like the Rogue spin off though.
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Old 02-26-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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All that says is that Ben Solo was just a "bad seed" from the start. That movie's already been done.
True... But what's wrong with a new, updated, space-age version of the movie?

The Bad Seed (1956) Rhoda Gets Angry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLcQkIX6dI
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Old 02-26-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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The Last Jedi performed right in line with Part 2 Star Wars films:
  • The Empire Strikes Back fell 32% from A New Hope
  • Attack of the Clones fell 30% from A Phantom Menace
  • The Last Jedi fell 34%(D), 36% (W) from The Force Awakens
So it is performing exactly to Star Wars standards and expectations. Markets may expand, but interest can decline, especially as homegrown films take precedence in other territories. You can't force feed (no pun intended) Star Wars to China, when China would rather watch Wolf Warrior 2 and Monster Hunt 2. You might say Star wars is a North American religion, but to the rest of the world, it's just a typical fantasy blockbuster.
Right on, THG, right on.
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Old 02-26-2018, 08:00 PM
 
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So it is performing exactly to Star Wars standards and expectations. Markets may expand, but interest can decline, especially as homegrown films take precedence in other territories. You can't force feed (no pun intended) Star Wars to China, when China would rather watch Wolf Warrior 2 and Monster Hunt 2. You might say Star wars is a North American religion, but to the rest of the world, it's just a typical fantasy blockbuster.
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Notably, the first Star Wars film (Episode 4: The New Hope) was released in 1977, one year after the death of Chairman Mao and the end of the Cultural Revolution. No foreign entertainment was imported into China at that time. 1977 was therefore not a banner year for movies in China to say the least. The first Star Wars film to be released in China was Episode 1: The Phantom Menace, and this was in 1999. Chinaís box office gained popularity as late as 2009, and, in fact, until The Force Awakens there have been no Star Wars releases since 2009. Many Star Wars franchise fans worldwide were children in the 1970s and 1980s, but in China todayís primary movie-going audience was born between the years of 1985-1999. Therefore, the powerful nostalgia factor that the most recent Star Wars movie has going for it in North America is lost on most Asian movie viewers.
Star Wars Underperforms In China As Cultural Differences Emerge

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One: Star Wars does not have over 30 years of accumulated fandom or brand recognition in China. The original trilogy was never shown in China in the 1970s or 1980s. They have no nostalgia or sentimental attachment to it. The original trilogy has been shown in China since and was met with a shrug. The average age of the China moviegoer is 21, and they donít have any patience for the production values of old movies. They donít even give a toss about Shaw Brothers movies, which was a gamble that Celestial Pictures lost when they thought restoring the whole movie library and trying to release it in China would make money.

Look! It Moves! Ė Why China Doesnít Care about Star Wars
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Old 02-26-2018, 08:03 PM
 
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The China Issue.

It it because the Chinese in their own national mythology are not viscerally opposed to the idea of an empire?
I thought about that too and wondered how Star Wars would do in North Korea.... That is, if North Korea even has a film industry.
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