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Old 01-16-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Olivia Spencer's character gives a 1-2 sentence explanation the first time they meet Shannon's character
Yes. She explains that
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Elisa was found in a river as a child and taken in as an orphan. And at the end of the film, the scars on Elisa's neck turn into gills.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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Thanks--didn't know how to do a spoiler overlay
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV, U.S.A.
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Thanks--didn't know how to do a spoiler overlay
The SHOW | HIDE button works most times, if not:

[spoiler] [spoiler] ad the / before "spoiler" in the second box.
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:14 PM
 
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Aaahhhh...
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Bloomington, IL
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The movie was interesting...not nearly as good as Pan's Labyrinth.

The sexual scenes seemed a bit gratuitous - did we need to see Elisa masturbate TWICE so we would know she was a "sexual being" and disprove the stereotype that people with a disability are deemed asexual? And Strickland having sex with his wife - was that just to further cement that he had a sick perverted life, in general?
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Old 01-20-2018, 06:16 PM
 
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And Strickland having sex with his wife - was that just to further cement that he had a sick perverted life, in general?
How is he having sex with his wife "sick and perverted"?
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Old 01-20-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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It was the directions he gave his wife and his behavior while having sex that showed a somewhat perverse approach and foreshadowed his interest in Elisa---

And I thought the fact that Elisa masturbated in the manner SHE did was also foreshadowing and indicative of her hidden nature...and could also have indicated that
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based on what happens later that she was seeking a mate because of her maturation process---that her attraction to the man-fish was part of body's inescapable attraction to his


Maybe as you suggest it showed she was a "full" person despite being mute-but I think that point was made in other ways--especially from Olivia Spencer's full acceptance of her and acknowledgement of intelligence, humor, empathy--even the fact that she chided her for being late herself, while not allowing the other worker to do it===funny but totally in keeping with home someone protects someone they love-
"I can pick on my sister/friend all I want--but not you"...

There WAS a purpose/reason behind the revealing of each character's behavior--
It was not gratuitous at all...you might not have understood at the moment but to claim it was just exploitive and attention seeking AFTER seeing the movie suggests you were not looking beneath the surface for deeper meaning...
Hidden depths...
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:41 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Good movie, very good movie. Saw on New Years, and while I enjoyed it I have no intention of watching it again at all. I don't if the woman was really human(found near the water, with marks on her neck)or grew up with hose creatures he ce why she knew he liked boiled eggs and loved him.

I certainly don't think it was a masterpiece.
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Old 01-21-2018, 06:06 AM
 
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Consider the symbolism of boiled eggs
I can see multiple facets of metaphorical imagery

But agree
Think the story is little too muddled to be considered a full success
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Bloomington, IL
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It was the directions he gave his wife and his behavior while having sex that showed a somewhat perverse approach and foreshadowed his interest in Elisa---

And I thought the fact that Elisa masturbated in the manner SHE did was also foreshadowing and indicative of her hidden nature...and could also have indicated that
Spoiler
based on what happens later that she was seeking a mate because of her maturation process---that her attraction to the man-fish was part of body's inescapable attraction to his


Maybe as you suggest it showed she was a "full" person despite being mute-but I think that point was made in other ways--especially from Olivia Spencer's full acceptance of her and acknowledgement of intelligence, humor, empathy--even the fact that she chided her for being late herself, while not allowing the other worker to do it===funny but totally in keeping with home someone protects someone they love-
"I can pick on my sister/friend all I want--but not you"...

There WAS a purpose/reason behind the revealing of each character's behavior--
It was not gratuitous at all...you might not have understood at the moment but to claim it was just exploitive and attention seeking AFTER seeing the movie suggests you were not looking beneath the surface for deeper meaning...
Hidden depths...
It's easy to speculate and the more convoluted perhaps the more hidden depths you could be said to have perceived.

There may have been an intended purpose...but was it necessary? Certainly I make judgement both during and after the movie and I didn't need to see him having sex with his wife to figure out that HE was a sexual being...or that he had some nasty proclivities as there were many indications throughout. It more seemed to be a diversion into the sterotypical '50's family and household and a deliberate setup to show there was nothing typical at all about him....which again, was not necessary. He was quite a one-dimensional character and I don't know that this scene succeeded in adding anything to help that.

It was an interesting concept and movie but not a great one.
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