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Old 08-11-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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As for semi-autos ... well, only an idiot walks around with a cocked gun on his hip.
You sure about that?
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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Also, guns in movies don't have the proper "kick" that they should have in real life. This is especially apparent when they fire shotguns.
Don't forget the never ending ammo without the need to stop and reload
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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<>As for semi-autos ... well, only an idiot walks around with a cocked gun on his hip.
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An old police buddy and I talked about this a couple of years ago. Wilhelm had the drop on Nichols. The last sound officer Wilhelm heard was the hammer on his pistol dropping on an empty chamber.
Atlanta Courthouse Shootings Fast Facts - CNN
"Sad"
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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My favorite gunplay in a movie is Tom Cruise in Jack Reacher. A minor bad guy has the drop on him and Jack says, "On 'Three' I want you to shoot me." On two he grabs the gun and breaks the guy's hand.
"Violence ensues."
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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When I was a kid I didn't know any better, but now it's funny to watch some of the old westerns and see them fan the hammer of the pistol in rapid succession with their free hand, instead of pulling the trigger.

Because of that, I always wanted this when it came out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8qXLxHi9_8
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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But with those old western guns, they have to **** the hammer with their other hands first, because back in the western days, a revolver will not fire, unless cocked before pulling the trigger, no?
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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But with those old western guns, they have to **** the hammer with their other hands first, because back in the western days, a revolver will not fire, unless cocked before pulling the trigger, no?
Both designs were available:
"The Colt M1877 was a double-action revolver manufactured by
Colt's Patent Fire Arms from January 1877 to 1909 for a total of 166,849 revolvers. "
A shooting friend says that if you want to hit someone with a double action revolver you should take the bullets out, grasp firmly by the barrel and smack your target over the head with the but {} of the revolver.
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:00 PM
 
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I fired a double action .44 magnum and I did a better job hitting a target compared to a Berretta 92, so it's weird that double action revolvers, are that bad, if they are.

However, a lot of westerns where they **** the gun with their other hands before firing, I assume took place before 1877.
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I fired a double action .44 magnum and I did a better job hitting a target compared to a Berretta 92, so it's weird that double action revolvers, are that bad, if they are.

However, a lot of westerns where they **** the gun with their other hands before firing, I assume took place before 1877.
No you just assume that the characters carried single action revolvers. Even in westerns set after the US adopted the M1911 like The Wild Bunch or The Professionals (1966) while you might see an semi auto probably carried to use a soldier's disguise by the character and to emphasize the time period for the audience the gunfighter/robber/mercenaries in the films still carried the tried and true revolvers of the past decades. For example Lee Marvin in The Professional being a retired Major having both the 45 and revolver on him.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:02 PM
 
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But I thought the 1911 came out in the year 1911, hence the name. I haven't seen The Professionals, but The Wild Bunch was set later on in the early 1900s, which is a lot later compared to when westerns like The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly was set, which was during the civil war. So I thought that single action revolvers in westerns around that time were normal.
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