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Old 08-12-2017, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If you're not up for a firearm, it has been suggested to avoid pepper spray and go with Wasp & Hornet Spray. Very debilitating, less reside to affect you, and longer range.
I haven't come across a wasp/hornet spray can that would be convenient to carry at all.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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But I thought the 1911 came out in the year 1911, hence the name. I haven't seen The Professionals, but The Wild Bunch was set later on in the early 1900s, which is a lot later compared to when westerns like The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly was set, which was during the civil war. So I thought that single action revolvers in westerns around that time were normal.
They, the single action revolver were in movies set before and after 1877 where the other poster put a date on a double action revolver entering the market. But for the movies and viewers we already had our expectations. the quick draw and fanning the hammer back, the pointing the weapon in the air and pulling the trigger to let the hammer down gently being among the expected scenes, just as today we expect to see guns extended in a two handed stance and characters screaming clear after a glance in a room.
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:00 PM
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Location: Raleigh
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I haven't come across a wasp/hornet spray can that would be convenient to carry at all.
Yeah very unwieldy.
I think the original discussion was using it for home defense. Haven't tried it, but I know pepper spray will last for days in an enclosed space.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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They, the single action revolver were in movies set before and after 1877 where the other poster put a date on a double action revolver entering the market. But for the movies and viewers we already had our expectations. the quick draw and fanning the hammer back, the pointing the weapon in the air and pulling the trigger to let the hammer down gently being among the expected scenes, just as today we expect to see guns extended in a two handed stance and characters screaming clear after a glance in a room.
Isn't the two handed stance realistic though? I mean if you look at actual surveillance footage of police and law enforcement, I never see them fire a gun with one hand in a firefight, in real footage.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:25 PM
 
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Both designs were available:
"The Colt M1877 was a double-action revolver manufactured by
Colt's Patent Fire Arms from January 1877 to 1909 for a total of 166,849 revolvers. "
A shooting friend says that if you want to hit someone with a double action revolver you should take the bullets out, grasp firmly by the barrel and smack your target over the head with the but {} of the revolver.
Hardly anyone trusted that gun, though.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:28 PM
 
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I fired a double action .44 magnum and I did a better job hitting a target compared to a Berretta 92, so it's weird that double action revolvers, are that bad, if they are.

However, a lot of westerns where they **** the gun with their other hands before firing, I assume took place before 1877.
Later double action revolvers were and are very good firearms. They really only lack in a couple of areas: Firepower (that is, the ability to get lots of bullets out of the barrel in a short amount of time) and harsh condition reliability (ability to fire after having been dragged through mud and given no more than a quick rinse).
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:50 PM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo
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Watch Steve McQueen in Wanted Dead Or Alive when he's rapid-firing that sawed-off 44-40.
His left and keeps sliding down the barrel each time he fires it. His fingers are only an inch away from the end of the barrel. Dangerous gun.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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What Taiko said.

And also, it depends on the gun. Some revolvers don't have a "safety." You just lower the hammer, and the only way to do that is to pull the trigger slightly. As for semi-autos ... well, only an idiot walks around with a cocked gun on his hip.

The thing that irks me about gunplay in movies: Everyone ignores how loud they are. Cops wear ear protection at the gun range for a reason. If you fire a gun inside a closed room or a hallway, you aren't going to be hearing much bit a high-pitched ringing in your ears for a long time.

Remember that scene in Terminator 2 when Sarah Connor was firing the pistol inside the elevator? One of her ear plugs fell out and Linda Hamilton now has permanent hearing damage. That's how loud guns are in real life.



Exactly. Even outside they are extremely loud.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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Another movie mistake is when characters have their finger on the trigger before acquiring the target. Most James Bond 007 publicity posters depict the actors who've played 007 throughout the decades, with the finger on the trigger of the Walther PPK, or in Brosnan's case a later Walther.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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Another movie mistake is when characters have their finger on the trigger before acquiring the target. Most James Bond 007 publicity posters depict the actors who've played 007 throughout the decades, with the finger on the trigger of the Walther PPK, or in Brosnan's case a later Walther.
I'm not sure trigger discipline was as rigorously enforced prior to the 70s or so.
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