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Old 04-13-2018, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Maine
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At the time, I was in exactly the same emotional place as Bob, making a transition from a great military career in which I was saving the world to...a job in an insurance company.
I feel your pain. I also work in the insurance industry. The Russian Mob has more of a conscience and greater compassion.
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Old 04-15-2018, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Very blatant in Act 2. Bob tells us:


BOB: This is my fault. I've been a lousy father. Blind to what I have. So obsessed with being undervalued that I undervalued all of you.

DASH: Dad?

HELEN: Shh. Don't interrupt.

BOB: So caught up in the past that I... You are my greatest adventure. And I almost missed it.



That's the theme of the whole movie right there.
There is that and then there is the existential crisis that happens because him and Fro-Zone cannot be supers anymore due to a series of lawsuits. You see that they simply cannot give up being heroes.
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Old 04-15-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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There is that and then there is the existential crisis that happens because him and Fro-Zone cannot be supers anymore due to a series of lawsuits. You see that they simply cannot give up being heroes.
Well, we don't know how they got their powers--we have to assume that Bob's powers are natural, inasmuch as there seems to be in heritable "superpower gene." We see this as the issue faced by Dash.

If that is the case (and from what we see of their children), then their abilities are existential to them. And that's a deeper meaning to the question that's touched upon with the entire X-men saga. It's not as glib as saying, "they can't give up being heroes," is more like, "they can't pretend not to be what they were born as."
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Saw it this morning, highly recommended. Great popcorn flick


The typical disney short story before the movie was very bizarre
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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Saw it last night. Unfortunately, it's not as good as the original. It didn't hit me in feelz the way the original did.

OTOH, it is still one of the best movies of the year. Action was great, family issues were realistic, voice characterizations were amazing, and animation was top-notch. I like the way they had Elastigirl talking out of the side of her mouth the way Holly Hunter actually does. This is a movie to watch, if nothing else, for the sheer competence of its art. Fortunately, there are other reasons to watch it.

Why, again, can't they write a good Fantastic Four plot? Pixar's done it twice. This plot isn't as deep as the first (toxic fans--who'd a thunk it?) but it's certainly serviceable. The villain, interestingly, had the singularly best animation throughout the movie.

Yeah, that short made me squeal at one point, "Oh, eff, that wasn't for children to see!" And then you had to spend some time thinking as the ending progressed.
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Yeah, that short made me squeal at one point, "Oh, eff, that wasn't for children to see!" And then you had to spend some time thinking as the ending progressed.
I think it was poor writing. Obviously no one will riot over it but this short and the moana one really makes you question the direction of it and who approves it.

So the Chinese baby (dumpling?) grows up to rebel then brings home a white woman. Really? What are you trying to portray here?
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Old 06-16-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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I think it was poor writing. Obviously no one will riot over it but this short and the moana one really makes you question the direction of it and who approves it.

So the Chinese baby (dumpling?) grows up to rebel then brings home a white woman. Really? What are you trying to portray here?
It's a fable for parents: Raise your children well, raise them with love, but let them grow up then let them go, and ultimately they will not disappoint you.

It may actually be a real Chinese fable, told in a modern animated setting.

I think it's a good short, but parents are going to have to explain it to their small children on the way home, that's for danged sure.

OTOH, I think adolescents will understand it and feel it immediately.
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Old 06-16-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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On some side notes, the lighting was incredibly good, especially through a chase and fight sequence between Elastigirl and the Screenslaver through a building. This was like a live-action movie with someone like Hitchcock directing. Excellent and exciting.

It also really gave you a feeling of actors under direction. It's not that the animation was attempting to look like live action, but that they moved--even slouched--in ways that looked like actors.

And the score was great, probably one of the coolest scores since Peter Gunn.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:36 AM
 
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I think it was poor writing. Obviously no one will riot over it but this short and the moana one really makes you question the direction of it and who approves it.

So the Chinese baby (dumpling?) grows up to rebel then brings home a white woman. Really? What are you trying to portray here?
If I'm not mistaken, the short for Moana won the Oscar for its category.
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Old 06-17-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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Sets the box office record for highest opening animated movie ever.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...150621768.html
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