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Old 04-27-2018, 06:36 PM
 
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The problem with all these new SW flicks starting with Clone Wars the animated series is that Lucus is not involved or they never ran these stories through him for input. You have all these different writers create stories and not sourced from Lucus and you're left with loss of authenticity. Look at Eps7-8, they both sucked because they felt like reboots and not continuation. They killed Hans and Luke because they don't want the new gen of SW fans demand for them to be included in future stories and would be difficult to include in the story. This is just like how HBO not include Lady Stoneheart in Game of Thrones, they don't want old characters revived.
Well, there is a practical as well as an artistic purpose in shifting, at some point, jeez, the franchise away from the Skywalker saga.

Clone Wars was a good series that produced some good stories and good characters. The same is true of Rebels.

A couple of years ago I was on a bus listening to a couple of elementary school kids excitedly describing Star Wars to an adult. They talked for nearly half an hour, full of enthusiasm, not mentioning a Skywalker even once. Their Star Wars universe was born with Rebels, and that's not a bad thing.

Those characters have gotten too doggoned old. The actors have gotten physically too doggoned old. Heck, one has already died. They can't be the future of the franchise for those kids. The Star Wars universe needs to go on.

And there is no reason it can't be a sprawling universe with many different stories. Rogue One was a darned good war story set in the SW universe. Somewhere there is a darned good comedy to be set in the Star Wars universe. There's probably a darned good heist movie set in the Star Wars universe (maybe Solo is it, but probably not).


But characters for all kinds of SW movies have already been born in the animations, and there is a future for even more.

Dave Filoni is a fine sucessor to George Lucas--better in some ways. Honestly, Filoni should be put in charge of all of it. He's got the right vision.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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I love the premise here, “Do you think this new movie will be worse than a universally acclaimed movie that’s also the highest grossing movie of all time by far in the English speaking world?” Uhh, what?! Both TFA and TLJ were masterpieces, but just like any great works of art that doesn’t mean everyone can appreciate them.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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Well, there is a practical as well as an artistic purpose in shifting, at some point, jeez, the franchise away from the Skywalker saga.

Clone Wars was a good series that produced some good stories and good characters. The same is true of Rebels.

A couple of years ago I was on a bus listening to a couple of elementary school kids excitedly describing Star Wars to an adult. They talked for nearly half an hour, full of enthusiasm, not mentioning a Skywalker even once. Their Star Wars universe was born with Rebels, and that's not a bad thing.

Those characters have gotten too doggoned old. The actors have gotten physically too doggoned old. Heck, one has already died. They can't be the future of the franchise for those kids. The Star Wars universe needs to go on.

And there is no reason it can't be a sprawling universe with many different stories. Rogue One was a darned good war story set in the SW universe. Somewhere there is a darned good comedy to be set in the Star Wars universe. There's probably a darned good heist movie set in the Star Wars universe (maybe Solo is it, but probably not).


But characters for all kinds of SW movies have already been born in the animations, and there is a future for even more.

Dave Filoni is a fine sucessor to George Lucas--better in some ways. Honestly, Filoni should be put in charge of all of it. He's got the right vision.
Yup. Could not agree more. And extra points to anyone who can use the word "doggone" to make a fine point.
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Old 04-29-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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Well, there is a practical as well as an artistic purpose in shifting, at some point, jeez, the franchise away from the Skywalker saga.
Waited for them to do that. Gave up. Somehow I doubt we'll ever see a movie without a lightsaber flaring up. I bet it happens in Solo.

If we do get one that doesn't involve a Skywalker or Jedi or lightsabers (we even got Vader in Rogue One) on even the most peripheral level, it will be a one-off —then back to the same old, same old.

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And there is no reason it can't be a sprawling universe with many different stories. Rogue One was a darned good war story set in the SW universe. Somewhere there is a darned good comedy to be set in the Star Wars universe. There's probably a darned good heist movie set in the Star Wars universe (maybe Solo is it, but probably not).
Sure, dude. Chalk it up to you to pitch Jar Jar: A Star Wars Story Drenched in Bathos.
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Old 04-29-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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Actually, wait, a Star Wars comedy already exists:

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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. It sucks.
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