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Old 01-05-2018, 02:06 PM
 
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Johnson said that he would have included Obi Wan if Alec Guiness were alive. He felt it would feel weird since Luke never interacted with Ewan's Obi Wan, which I agree with.
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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And I hated, hated, hated the porgs. Hated on the same level that I hated Jar Jar. Ugh.
I didn’t hate the porgs, but I agree they were given too much screen time (and clearly for merchandizing reasons). They should have just been kept as interesting background creatures on the island, the same way the crystal foxes were on the salt planet.

And am I the only one who found the “Chewbacca roasting porgs for dinner” scene incredibly disturbing? Talk about a humor misfire! Where’s the humor in watching a small, helpless creature crying over the deaths of others of its kind? I’m still surprised they left that scene in the final cut.
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:56 PM
 
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I didn’t hate the porgs, but I agree they were given too much screen time (and clearly for merchandizing reasons). They should have just been kept as interesting background creatures on the island, the same way the crystal foxes were on the salt planet.
And yet, in Star Wars: Rebels, the crystal foxes clearly have a significant Force importance that Rebels fans expected to be explored in greater depth.

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And am I the only one who found the “Chewbacca roasting porgs for dinner” scene incredibly disturbing? Talk about a humor misfire! Where’s the humor in watching a small, helpless creature crying over the deaths of others of its kind? I’m still surprised they left that scene in the final cut.
I agree.

All in all, this was a deliberate intent to deconstruct the Jedi and Sith orders...but Johnson seems to have zero understand of how the various elements of the Star Wars saga has already been doing that, and the direction they've been going.

It's puzzling that Disney is so oblivious that this movie is an offense not just to old Skywalker Saga fans, but even the new fans being developed by the Disney animations.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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Johnson said that he would have included Obi Wan if Alec Guiness were alive. He felt it would feel weird since Luke never interacted with Ewan's Obi Wan, which I agree with.
They could've done the same thing they did to bring Tarkin back in Rogue One. It should be easier since Force Ghosts are a little blurry anyway.
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:57 AM
 
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They could've done the same thing they did to bring Tarkin back in Rogue One. It should be easier since Force Ghosts are a little blurry anyway.
Peter Cushing had stated an explicit desire to reappear in a future film, and his estate gave permission--that was an easy road as far as the legalities were concerne.

But, frankly, I don't think Johnson had any desire or intention to meet any fan expectation, so if the matter ever came to his mind, I doubt he thought much about it.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Peter Cushing had stated an explicit desire to reappear in a future film, and his estate gave permission--that was an easy road as far as the legalities were concerne.
Good point. Given that Alec Guiness was NOT happy about the fact that the average moviegoer knew him only from Star Wars and not any of his many other films, I suspect getting permission from his estate to CGI him in as a Force Ghost probably would not have been granted in any case.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:45 AM
 
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After just three weeks, The Last Jedi has fallen from No. 1. It actually fell two spaces, behind Jumanji and the new Insidious: The Last Key.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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After just three weeks, The Last Jedi has fallen from No. 1. It actually fell two spaces, behind Jumanji and the new Insidious: The Last Key.
JUMANJI is a better movie.

Not saying JUMANJI is a great movie. It's a fun popcorn flick, and I'd recommend it as such. But at least it is a coherent story with consistently fun characters. THE LAST JEDI is not. THE LAST JEDI is a mess.
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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After just three weeks, The Last Jedi has fallen from No. 1. It actually fell two spaces, behind Jumanji and the new Insidious: The Last Key.
The Last Jedi is still the second fastest grossing movie of all time, and will likely snatch the 5th spot on the all time domestic chart. It's the highest grossing movie of 2017, and with $570million domestically to date, I don't think the studio is concerned with a fourth week ranking. Jumanji is overperforming (and I like that it is) but The Last Jedi is performing like a regular Star Wars sequel: it's in line with Empire and Clones.

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Old 01-08-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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And am I the only one who found the “Chewbacca roasting porgs for dinner” scene incredibly disturbing? Talk about a humor misfire! Where’s the humor in watching a small, helpless creature crying over the deaths of others of its kind? I’m still surprised they left that scene in the final cut.
Yeah, and even the scene of Luke milking the giant cow creature and then drinking the milk was kinda "weird" to me also...lol
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