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Old 12-29-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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Love it, and funny it's mentioned as I just bought it off Ebay a couple of days ago.


I have no idea why I love it. Probably because of the sacrilege done to the music.
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:25 AM
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Everything about it is great. Acting, music, story, costume design, cinematography, editing, etc.

As for the ending, it's vague so the viewer of the film can have his own ideas about what happens to Alex, in order to make one think. This is not the only Kubrick film with a vague ending.
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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I saw it in a theater when it first came out and was bored silly.

Saw it years later and got a lot of meaning out of it. Wondered why I had hated it the first time. Now I can't remember what was so great about it but there must have been something to it. Maybe you have to see it twice.
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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Everything about it is great. Acting, music, story, costume design, cinematography, editing, etc.

As for the ending, it's vague so the viewer of the film can have his own ideas about what happens to Alex, in order to make one think. This is not the only Kubrick film with a vague ending.
I can understand that they wanted to be vague, and draw your own conclusions, but the story doesn't really have anything interesting to say about this futuristic world, or Alex's cure. Only that the cure is flawed and riddled with side effects. There doesn't seem to be a real theme to the cure, and that was my problem with it.

Even if we do not know what happens to Alex, that is not the point. The movie not having a theme in the cure is the problem for the ending, as it does not pay off. A vague ending is good if you still manage to pay off the theme, but I didn't feel they did here.
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:27 AM
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I can understand that they wanted to be vague, and draw your own conclusions, but the story doesn't really have anything interesting to say about this futuristic world, or Alex's cure. Only that the cure is flawed and riddled with side effects. There doesn't seem to be a real theme to the cure, and that was my problem with it.

Even if we do not know what happens to Alex, that is not the point. The movie not having a theme in the cure is the problem for the ending, as it does not pay off. A vague ending is good if you still manage to pay off the theme, but I didn't feel they did here.
The theme is anti-social engineering and crticism of science providing allp-powerful solutions to social problems,as supposed "cures" often create more problems than they solve
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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Okay that makes sense, but that is a good idea for a movie, and there is so much you can do with that idea, rather than the cure, causing someone not to be able to stand Beethoven over and over again. It feels like missed opportunities to explore the themes more thoroughly.
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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I remember when that came out when I was a kid. Also, I remember "I am curious yellow". Didn't see that either. The late 60's, and early 70's were full of movie strangeness. I think it was the drugs.
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:52 AM
 
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I've come to think that one has to have at least a passing knowledge of the British gangs and the way kids are treated in Britain to appreciate the film. It can be much different than an experience growing up stateside. Personally, I didn't care for the film at the time, but I was just not into that type of movie.

"I am curious - yellow" is a movie I didn't "get" until I rented the DVD with the extensive intro and explanation of Sweden during that era. IMO, the explanation is better than the film. In the U.S., IACY was all about breaking censorship from the straight jacket of the 1950s and 1960s. Ginsberg's "Howl" broke ground for literature, and IACY broke ground for film.
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:57 AM
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Okay that makes sense, but that is a good idea for a movie, and there is so much you can do with that idea, rather than the cure, causing someone not to be able to stand Beethoven over and over again. It feels like missed opportunities to explore the themes more thoroughly.
Curing him of his propensity to commit violence made him at the same time unable to withstand the things he loved like Beethoven and turned him from a thug to a snowflake.

Much like SSRIs
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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But what do you think, did I miss something?
Yes.
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