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Old 01-11-2018, 02:14 PM
 
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Well I think Lethal Weapon is probably the better Christmas action movie, if I had to pick. And I didn't think that a lot of McClane's wisecracks were really that good. They were okay, but some lines were just cheesy like "Now I know what a TV dinner feels like" and bad eye rolling lines like that.

Or like when he says "I'm not the one who got b%$#76 on national TV". It just read like a really immature line, like he couldn't say any other jab than resorting to homosexual rape. So I didn't think his wise cracks were exceptionally better than other action heroes as a result.
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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"Now I have a machine gun"
Ho ho ho.

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Old 01-11-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Ho ho ho.

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Yes! And Alan Rickman said it perfectly.
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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Well I think Lethal Weapon is probably the better Christmas action movie, if I had to pick. And I didn't think that a lot of McClane's wisecracks were really that good. They were okay, but some lines were just cheesy like "Now I know what a TV dinner feels like" and bad eye rolling lines like that.

Or like when he says "I'm not the one who got b%$#76 on national TV". It just read like a really immature line, like he couldn't say any other jab than resorting to homosexual rape. So I didn't think his wise cracks were exceptionally better than other action heroes as a result.
Watch the movie without your PC-colored lenses on. People really did, and do, talk like that.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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Yeah I know people talk like that, I just didn't think the lines were that good.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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Improve them, then.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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Well for one thing, I don't think McClane even needed to antagonize the cops outside over the radio in that scene, and he was just wasting his breath, and should have moved on to more important things.
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:47 PM
 
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Maybe McClane was under so much pressure and felt painted into a corner, and his true personality was what you were seeing, i.e. characterization.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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Come out to the coast, we'll get together, have a few laughs.

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Old 01-11-2018, 07:08 PM
 
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I never thought of Die Hard as a Christmas movie, but I read some articles recently that point out the many Christmas references, which helps me appreciate the movie a little more.
In the 80s heyday of action heroes, villains were usually written as inexplicably evil and barely human (vs the action hero who's portrayed as an invincible emblem of justice). Virtually of the terrorists in Die Hard have something unique about them, and the good guys were aging, overweight characters who couldn't guarantee that they'd save the day.
Times have changed and standards have improved, but in 1988 Die Hard was a change of pace for the genre.
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