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Old 02-14-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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The reason why I feel like comparing those two is cause I just finished the series again, and decided which Bond entries I liked, compared to the ones I felt were the missfires. However, there are two I cannot decide on that are right down the middle line for me, and it's these two.

Basically For Your Eyes Only I felt had two bland girls, (perhaps 3 as the countess was not that great either), and bland villains. I felt Kristatos was too on the nose and nothing more, same with pretty much the henchmen.

I do like Columbo though and I like the Cold War plot overall.

And for A View to A Kill, I think the villain and henchwoman are much better and more memorable, but the plot is not as good, and didn't really get behind the whole Silicon valley thing. That would be a like a Bond villain trying to take over Facebook or something in today's Bond movies. But I really like the villains more than usual. Some of the elements of FYEO feel more fresh compared to AVTAK where they are more worn out by then.

For example, a lot of Moore Bond movies end with MI6 not knowing where Bond is, and then they catch him in an awkward situation at the end, played for laughs. But I felt that the parrot moment in FYEO, felt more fresh, compared to the shower moment, with the robot in AVTAK. In fact, they never really made good use of that robot and it feels like a last minute re-write to make up for a forgotten gadget. But that's just an example.

What do you think?
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:11 AM
 
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I have both on VHS and I like both but I think FOR YOUR EYES ONLY is a little better
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:29 AM
 
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FOR YOUR EYES ONLY is my favorite of the Moore films. A VIEW TO A KILL is not very good at all.
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Old 02-15-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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For Your Eyes Only was a pull back to a more grounded spy movie after the excesses of the Space Marines in Moonraker. A View To a Kill was Bond returning to the excess
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:40 PM
 
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A View to a Kill was the first Bond movie I saw as a kid, so I have a soft spot for it. Yes, it is very cheesy and Moore was way too old for the role.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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For Your Eyes Only was a pull back to a more grounded spy movie after the excesses of the Space Marines in Moonraker. A View To a Kill was Bond returning to the excess
That's true, but For Your Eyes Only has a weak Bond girl and villain I thought. Basically the villain is very one note I found and the actor just plaid him in such a plane deadpan way without really bringing much to him. He also has a very uninteresting background subplot about wanting to get a teenage girl into the Olympics which doesn't add anything to the rest of the movie and feels very out of place.

The Bond girl Melina, is a good Bond girl on paper, but the actress plays her in such a deadpan way as well, as if she didn't enjoy making the movie and couldn't wait to get off the set. She just seemed burned out, acting wise.

So I feel that Tanya Roberts brought more to the table, and didn't seem to tired and wanting to leave, like she was actually having fun with her role.

And I thought that Christopher Walkin was a more memorable villain than Julian Glover, and that Grace Jones, was a much more memorable henchperson that the henchman actor from For Your Eyes Only.

So even though For Your Eyes Only tries to be a more grounded spy story, it's weakness is forgettable characters, where as even though A View to A Kill wants to be more excess, it does it well with better characters. So that's the toss up for me.
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Old 02-20-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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IMO Christopher Walken was the best Bond villain ever.
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Old 03-29-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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He's pretty good.
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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Everybody thinks that Roger Moore was the star of For Your Eyes Only, but in actuality it was the Lotus Esprit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed185CTo7jM
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:33 AM
 
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The Roger Moore movies were generally my favorite: "Gold Finger" and "Casino Royale" being the notable exceptions. "For Your Eyes Only" and "The Spy Who Loved Me" were at the every top of the Moore era.
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