U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Entertainment and Arts > Movies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-02-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
27,611 posts, read 24,787,463 times
Reputation: 11181

Advertisements

I often read reviews where someone says "...and the acting was terrible" without getting into what made the acting so terrible. For the most part, I find nearly all acting in big budget films/TV shows to be pretty good acting. I usually only see truly poor acting in very low budget movies and movies where athletes or entertainers try to make the transition to the big screen. What would be an example of really bad acting, in your opinion, and what makes it so?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-02-2018, 09:58 AM
 
3,395 posts, read 3,205,734 times
Reputation: 9262
Well, probably the most famous example is Kristen Stewart in the "Twilight" series.


To me, bad acting is like pornography. I know it when I see it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2018, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
27,611 posts, read 24,787,463 times
Reputation: 11181
Here's an example of what I believe to be good acting and why.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zB6VaGhxnc

I think both Zooey and JGL do a fantastic job in this scene. Guilt has got to be one of the most difficult emotions to display in a non-verbal way and I think Zooey nails it after she says "What I was never sure of with you." IMO the best way to watch this scene is on mute and to simply watch their facial expressions. A lot of actors can fake cry, but JGL gets the "I want to cry but I have too much pride" facial expression down perfectly here.

Throughout the movie, JGL does a great job conveying that his character is absolutely in love, or at the very least infatuated with this woman, and you can see that in this scene where Zooey places her hand on top of his. It's almost like he gets taken back to those happy moments of their past and then gets crushed by reality and all of that is written on his face within the span of a few seconds.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2018, 10:24 AM
 
7,954 posts, read 3,862,498 times
Reputation: 27248
Quote:
Originally Posted by Book Lover 21 View Post
Well, probably the most famous example is Kristen Stewart in the "Twilight" series.


To me, bad acting is like pornography. I know it when I see it.
Yep. That was exactly where my mind went after reading the OP.
[CENTER]Save[/CENTER]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
21,461 posts, read 22,692,102 times
Reputation: 45123
Quote:
Originally Posted by Book Lover 21 View Post
To me, bad acting is like pornography. I know it when I see it.
Yeah, definitely. Good acting has a lot to do with making the viewer buy into the story. e.g. these two people are in love; that family is in danger from zombies; that woman is a nuclear scientist. When the acting is bad, the entire artifice falls apart.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
15,527 posts, read 29,228,109 times
Reputation: 21263
Quote:
Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
I often read reviews where someone says "...and the acting was terrible" without getting into what made the acting so terrible. For the most part, I find nearly all acting in big budget films/TV shows to be pretty good acting. I usually only see truly poor acting in very low budget movies and movies where athletes or entertainers try to make the transition to the big screen. What would be an example of really bad acting, in your opinion, and what makes it so?
Bad acting in my opinion, is when the actor cannot deliver a line and make it believable. Another aspect of bad acting is when the actor basically is the same character over and over and over, just with different names and circumstances.

Currently, the worst mainstream actor right now is Tom Cruise. He has two ways of acting: mumble or yell. That covers all the emotions that he can muster. How on earth he ever got a reputation as a great actor is beyond me.

Good actors? Mel Gibson 30 years ago. Brad Pitt. Adrien Brody. Many others.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
16,838 posts, read 51,286,023 times
Reputation: 27642
That question is a Pandora's box. In general, if the character is not believable, or it seems as though the actor is simply reciting lines, or the emotion of the character does not match the scene, that is "bad acting." There are also some actors that play up their own persona in films to be instantly recognizable. That may or may not be bad acting, depending on how distracting it is. The short answer is - actors are there to advance the story line, the story line is not there to enhance the actors.

Proper casting plays a big role in whether an actor is seen as good or not. Joe Pesci in "My Cousin Vinnie" was brilliant. Casting him as the lead in "Titanic" would have been a disaster, although the comic possibilities are intriguing.

Acting "styles" also play into the perception of whether acting is bad. I find "Ben Hur" to be full of horrible acting, but some people have no problem with that stylized acting. The kicker line from the original "Planet of the Apes" always struck me as some of the worst acting I had ever seen. The "tells" of real anger were simply not there, and the voice modulation was clearly designed for the microphone.

The reason that Stanislavsky variations are so prevalent is that they work. Actors that are able to "live" the role onstage and off have more consistent and natural reactions, down to little mannerisms. They do this at some psychological peril, for various reasons too complex to go into here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
17,330 posts, read 3,528,493 times
Reputation: 22580
Quote:
Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson View Post
Bad acting in my opinion, is when the actor cannot deliver a line and make it believable. Another aspect of bad acting is when the actor basically is the same character over and over and over, just with different names and circumstances.

Currently, the worst mainstream actor right now is Tom Cruise. He has two ways of acting: mumble or yell. That covers all the emotions that he can muster. How on earth he ever got a reputation as a great actor is beyond me.

Good actors? Mel Gibson 30 years ago. Brad Pitt. Adrien Brody. Many others.

Add to the Cruise list: Harrison Ford...he only has two or three facial expressions that never change.
Nicholas Cage, same thing...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2018, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
21,461 posts, read 22,692,102 times
Reputation: 45123
Quote:
Originally Posted by greatblueheron View Post
Add to the Cruise list: Harrison Ford...he only has two or three facial expressions that never change.
Nicholas Cage, same thing...
Right, those are the kind of actors who don't blend in to whatever role they're playing and become unrecognizable. Nick Cage is always playing Nick Cage, no matter what. Actors like Michael Fassbender or Cate Blanchett are almost chameleons--you forget you're watching a celebrity in a movie with them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2018, 11:02 AM
 
3,395 posts, read 3,205,734 times
Reputation: 9262
Some of the best acting I've seen lately is Claire Foy in "The Crown".


She doesn't have the luxury of showing passionate emotions. She is, after all, the queen. So she has to act with her facial expressions, perfectly timed sighs, a brittle tension in her manner, a shy smile, etc.


The contrast between her formality and Matt Smith's easy-going jauntiness is really beautiful.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Entertainment and Arts > Movies
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top