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Old 05-11-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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Why the snobbery about superhero films? - BBC News

The whole article is worth reading, but Jedi Master Mark Hamill gets straight to the point and is right on all counts:

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And last year, Star Wars actor Mark Hamill told USA Today: "I don't know what's going on with superhero movies. They're fantastic, but I think we're reaching a point of over-saturation. So that's why the story is so important, is that the gimmicks and all that, they can only take you so far. That's what I want, better stories."
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Old 05-11-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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MarkuS, why the snobbery? Is this article too good for the CBM thread?
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Old 05-11-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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MarkuS, why the snobbery? Is this article too good for the CBM thread?
Mea culpa.
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Old 05-11-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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I deny there is a saturation of superhero movies.

There are still hundreds and hundreds of movies coming out of Hollywood every year. If studios didn't have something guaranteeing they'll end the year in the black, that number might be much smaller.

And it's just as true for everyone involved. These gigantic blockbusters make it a bit more possible for everyone receiving that paycheck to afford to next do something closer to his heart that's going to make a pittance.

How can there be too many superhero movies when all the awards committees manage so well to ignore them every year?
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Old 05-11-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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How can there be too many superhero movies when all the awards committees manage so well to ignore them every year?
The awards are all fiction anyway. They only matter to the people getting the awards --- and even some of the smarter ones in that crowd have wised up.
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Old 05-11-2018, 01:47 PM
 
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I deny there is a saturation of superhero movies.

There are still hundreds and hundreds of movies coming out of Hollywood every year. If studios didn't have something guaranteeing they'll end the year in the black, that number might be much smaller.

And it's just as true for everyone involved. These gigantic blockbusters make it a bit more possible for everyone receiving that paycheck to afford to next do something closer to his heart that's going to make a pittance.

How can there be too many superhero movies when all the awards committees manage so well to ignore them every year?
I agree. Everyone who complains is whining. You and me had to wait decades for this to happen. So Star Wars isn't the biggest escapist franchise on the block anymore. Big deal.
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Old 05-11-2018, 02:04 PM
 
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I agree. Everyone who complains is whining. You and me had to wait decades for this to happen. So Star Wars isn't the biggest escapist franchise on the block anymore. Big deal.
Nor can they say that the superhero movies squeeze everything else out of the theaters.

I just checked out the lineup at my local Studio Movie Grill. They're still showing A Wrinkle in Time, a bomb that would have been written off, chopped up, and sold for banjo picks by now, if it wasn't being carried by Marvel profits.
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Old 05-11-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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The awards are all fiction anyway. They only matter to the people getting the awards --- and even some of the smarter ones in that crowd have wised up.
My point is that the snobs manage to ignore them for their favorite works of art...so they aren't crowding everything else out of the marketplace.
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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Yeah, but isn't the basic issue that super-hero films aren't very good? It's not like they're going to top any international "best ever" lists.

I went to see Black Panther, and was surprised at how mediocre it was. Just visual spectacle, but nothing clever about plot, dialogue, or anything else.
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Old 05-14-2018, 07:22 PM
 
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Yeah, but isn't the basic issue that super-hero films aren't very good? It's not like they're going to top any international "best ever" lists.

I went to see Black Panther, and was surprised at how mediocre it was. Just visual spectacle, but nothing clever about plot, dialogue, or anything else.
Why should that be a point? Back in the 50s and 60s, there were more than a hundred westerns released every year, and not more than a handful are recognized as "good" for that entire period.

So what?
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