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Old 05-13-2018, 12:50 AM
 
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Basically when having this discussion with other friends who are Bond fans, I am not sure how I would pick a favorite Bond girl and villain?
When it comes to ranking with the women, I could go for who is the best looking and sexiest like Domino Derval, although her character isn't very interesting, beyond looks and sex appeal.
Or I could go for a girl who is not as high in the looks department for me, but has a much better character development like Vesper Lynd, or Tracy.
When it comes to picking villains, I could go for the villain who is the most iconic in looks and performance such as Donald Pleasance's take on Blofeld, or I could go for the villain who is given the best character arc in terms of story, like Renard.
What do you think, or how would you pick?
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Old 05-13-2018, 05:44 AM
 
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I don't think I would bother. Rating two-dimensional fictional characters based upon the body type of the actress doesn't hold much appeal. Craft-wise, Dame Diana Rigg has the most chops. Villian-wise I always smiled at Richard Kiel's "Jaws." It had enough camp to deflate some of the pretension of the whole super-stud Bond idea.
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:11 PM
 
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For villain, I would say Jaws followed by Oddjob.

Best bond girl is much harder as many are forgettable.
The ones I do remember are ***** Galore, Octopussy, and Honey Rider.
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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There's so many villains to choose from but I was thinking maybe Goldfinger or Renard.

Girls, maybe Vesper Lynn, Tracy, or ***** Galore. Octopussy is an interesting choice of yours.
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:27 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Basically when having this discussion with other friends who are Bond fans, I am not sure how I would pick a favorite Bond girl and villain?
Why not read someone else's ranking on both?

Top 10 James Bond Girls: https://www.007james.com/articles/to...bond_girls.php

Top 10 James Bond Villains: https://www.007james.com/articles/to...d_villains.php
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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Ursula Andress as Honey Ryder
Richard Kiel as Jaws
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:48 PM
 
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Oh okay thanks, but everyone who makes lists online seems to almost always pick the same choices. For villains it's always Goldfinger or Blofeld, and for girls, it's always Vesper Lynd, Tracy, ***** Galore, or Honey Rider.

It's as if people pick the choices who are the most "classic" to audiences, rather than picking who they think are the best personally.
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Old 06-04-2018, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Basically when having this discussion with other friends who are Bond fans, I am not sure how I would pick a favorite Bond girl and villain?
When it comes to ranking with the women, I could go for who is the best looking and sexiest like Domino Derval, although her character isn't very interesting, beyond looks and sex appeal.
Or I could go for a girl who is not as high in the looks department for me, but has a much better character development like Vesper Lynd, or Tracy.
When it comes to picking villains, I could go for the villain who is the most iconic in looks and performance such as Donald Pleasance's take on Blofeld, or I could go for the villain who is given the best character arc in terms of story, like Renard.
What do you think, or how would you pick?
Roger Moore said that the villains get the best lines.

So best villain?

Dr. Kananga, hands down. He's suave, brutal, cruel, evil, without conscience, ingenious, commanding, you name it bad, he's it!

How ingeniously evil is he?

"Wholesale? "Sell" heroin, for money?!"--Kananga

"My apologies. I'm sure you simply give it away."--Bond

"Excellent, Mr Bond. That's precisely what I intend to do. Two tons of it, to be exact.
When entering into a fiercely competitive field, one finds it advisable to give away free samples. Man or woman, black or white. I don't discriminate."

"Two tons of heroin with a street value well over a billion dollars nationally distributed free? That should make a certain group of families rather angry, wouldn't you say?"

"Angry? Why, my dear Mr Bond, it'll positively drive them out of their minds. - And subsequently out of the business."

"Quite ingenious. A sort of junkies' welfare system."

"Merely until the number of addicts in the country has doubled, shall we say? Then I will market that acreage you blundered into the other day. That heroin will be very expensive indeed, leaving myself and the phone company the only two going monopolies in this nation for years to come."

He is going to turn thousands, if not millions into addicts and cause absolute misery when he hikes
the price and he thinks nothing of it. He has absolutely no soul what so ever.

Now, which woman to pick?

That's more difficult for two main reasons in that who would I want to be with or who do I want to be.
The thing about the latter can be further complicated in that if I wanted to be "her", then I should have to
accept her role in the movie to include who I have to associate with.

In some ways, it is easy, such as being Anya (TSWLM). Why? Because on the good guy side, she is the
most powerful of all Bond women, she is not sub servant to him.

So, who to be with?

Natalya Simonova (GoldenEye)
Paula (Thunderball)
Magda (Octopu**y)
Plenty O'Toole (Diamonds are Forever)

The first three because they are very capable women. Plenty maybe a twit who uses other people's money
but at least she's fun. Further, of course, by being with some of them, one doesn't die as them.

Who to be?

Anya for already stated reasons.
Natalya Simonova
Magda
Miss Curoso (Live and Let Die), the Italian Agent

Then we must address the femme fatale. While it is clear that one will suffer a fatal end, it can be fun getting
there.

Naomi (TSWLM)--Fast boats, fast helicopters and the "honor" of being the first woman that 007
kills. The only thing that bugs me is ....... do I sleep with Stromberg?

Miranda Frost (DAD)--well since I have already picked those who are secret agents, is it any wonder that I would pick
to be another MI-6 agent? These women are so well put together.....even if they are twisted.

Elektra King (TWINE)--not an agent but still so superbly every thing one could ever want to be.

Further, of these Femme Fatales, they all checked out in a rather quick, delicious (ie, doing what they
liked doing) ways .........

..........and not like Helga Brandt (YOLT) who fed the fishes.

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Old 06-04-2018, 06:20 AM
 
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I would watch CASINO ROYALE and say, "There you are."
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Old 06-04-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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I would watch CASINO ROYALE and say, "There you are."

Ahhh, but which one?


I mean, with the 1967 version, a man certainly could say "there you are" with all the fine examples of femininity in it from the main stars to Coop's training to be able to ignore women to the twins that hung on Orson Welles arms to the other women in the casino to the women of Scotland.


That kind of "There you are"?
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