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Old 05-16-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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Do you think Hollywood will ever learn not to glamorize blood and guts? All the while protesting guns.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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Do you think Hollywood will ever learn not to glamorize blood and guts? All the while protesting guns.
No, as long as there is a demand for this kind of garbage, money will always come first. My question is, what kind of people are demanding to see this kind of sick stuff? Obviously, the director expects a decent sized audience, and getting his pay off, smh.
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:32 PM
 
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Some stayed and applauded at the end. Wonder what kind of people there were if so many walked out?

I had a friend who said he knew a guy who wanted to watch all the horrible slice and dice movies since he had an abusive father. Wonder if they are trying to work something out from their childhood? Not on my dime.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:08 PM
 
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This is why I personally choose to refrain from the vast majority of modern-era horror movies. I'm actually a big fan of classic horror movies. I can certainly stomach SOME gore when well-utilized, but not these mindless torture-porn-gorefests whose brand of gore isn't scary, anyways, just disgusting.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:45 AM
 
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Hate gore in any sense so wont be seeing this movie ...sounds bad.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:47 AM
 
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Do you think Hollywood will ever learn not to glamorize blood and guts? All the while protesting guns.
Probably not.....and such is the reason I gave up on NBC in the 90s for a while and then again, finally, in this century.

The channel aired shows that depicted that civilians should not have guns, such as with ER and Empty Nest (mind you, over the years) and yet showed graphic violence against people such as people being suffocated in plastic bags on L&O (and during their To Catch a Predator "seasons" no less).

I was tired of them being hypocrites.

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This is why I personally choose to refrain from the vast majority of modern-era horror movies. I'm actually a big fan of classic horror movies. I can certainly stomach SOME gore when well-utilized, but not these mindless torture-porn-gorefests whose brand of gore isn't scary, anyways, just disgusting.
Me, too.

I'll do Roger Corman and Vincent Price......though some Vincent's can be rather opposite to each other. "Cry of the Banshee" is funner to watch than "Witchfinder General". Further, not all of the old movies are in the same ball park. "Mark of the Devil" was a bit harsh....but maybe that was the point of the theme.

I suppose it is like watching "Waxworks" when "Sarah" has her session with the Marquis. She experiences a lot less pain than what she would in reality. In such movies, there is the fantasy of the depravity, just like, perhaps, in ancient Greek plays where the audience could "live" those crimes for what the Gods condemned.

It's when they try to make it too realistic, too close to the mark, that it isn't fun anymore. Just like the Greek audiences where one sees, one feels, and then.....one goes home and continues to be a good citizen.

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Old 05-17-2018, 04:11 AM
 
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Probably not.....and such is the reason I gave up on NBC in the 90s for a while and then again, finally, in this century.

The channel aired shows that depicted that civilians should not have guns, such as with ER and Empty Nest (mind you, over the years) and yet showed graphic violence against people such as people being suffocated in plastic bags on L&O (and during their To Catch a Predator "seasons" no less).

I was tired of them being hypocrites.



Me, too.

I'll do Roger Corman and Vincent Price......though some Vincent's can be rather opposite to each other. "Cry of the Banshee" is funner to watch than "Witchfinder General". Further, not all of the old movies are in the same ball park. "Mark of the Devil" was a bit harsh....but maybe that was the point of the theme.

I suppose it is like watching "Waxworks" when "Sarah" has her session with the Marquis. She experiences a lot less pain than what she would in reality. In such movies, there is the fantasy of the depravity, just like, perhaps, in ancient Greek plays where the audience could "live" those crimes for what the Gods condemned.

It's when they try to make it too realistic, too close to the mark, that it isn't fun anymore. Just like the Greek audiences where one sees, one feels, and then.....one goes home and continues to be a good citizen.
I love HUSH, HUSH, SWEET CHARLOTTE from 1964 with Bette Davis. Very intelligent and also very genuinely spooky movie, in the vein of a Hitchcockian suspense-mystery-thriller mixed with high drama mixed with large dollops of genuinely creepy and scary haunted-house horror.

HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL from 1959 is fun and also with genuinely creepy scenes. Of course NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (1968) is a definite classic that’s plenty freaky. CARRIE from 1976 is an obvious masterpiece. Ditto for THE SHINING (1980). Also POLTERGEIST (1982), speaking of which that scene with the paranormal investigator in front of a mirror is shockingly graphically gory, but it’s one of the very few scenes that have any gore at all, and is also in an effectively scary context.

I love FRIGHT NIGHT from 1985, which I know is probably a good deal too late to technically be in the “classic horror” category, but really it isn’t so long after, and it has the overall FEEL of the traditional “classic” horror movies (even has a definite innocence about it), which in part is a result of being a tribute to Hammer horror with comic overtones - and classic Universal horror (Dracula, Wolfman, etc.) - that plays it very straight-faced for the final — genuinely intense and scary — final act, which showcases then-groundbreaking special effects, makeup, cinematography and editing, yet keeps gore to a definite minimum (which is pleasantly surprising for a vampire movie). It was a huge (surprise) box office hit in the summer of ‘85 but time seems to have left it largely in the shadows (pun intended) as it deserves MUCH more recognition today than it gets.

You’re absolutely correct about ‘Law and Order’ btw, and in the past few years (I tried watching some episodes- never again) the show has become INSANELY graphically gory. Honestly, I literally passed out twice from 2 episodes I tried to watch — the amount of on-screen gore in Law and Order would never have been allowed on any channel in the ‘90s or even 10 years ago (except HBO or [‘90s] Cinemax). I don’t see why instead of just seeing enough or hearing enough about the crime the creators now feel the need to have drawn-out, long, lingering shots of an insane amount of grisly gore, both wide shots and close-ups
at the crime scenes and later in the same episode the autopsies, it seriously lies in the territory of a hard-R or NC-17 rating. Really weird how nowadays NBC has that. I’m refreshed to know that my views are shared by other people on here, I thought I was the only one who felt gorefest does not equal good horror, and thought I was the only one not immune or desensitized to gorefest movies and shows.
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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If you make a list of the all-time best horror movies --- even those that involve a lot of murder in the story --- you'll notice a common element: Very little actual gore. It's often suggested, but very few great movies rub your nose in it.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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It must be all the special effects they can do now so they can make a crime scene look real. They like to use it but it makes people want to turn it off.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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Do you think Hollywood will ever learn not to glamorize blood and guts? All the while protesting guns.
Hahahahahahahahaha. Never. Just like they all tell us all the social programs and people we should be helping with our tax dollars all the time and then they do all their filming in Canada because of the taxes in Cali USA until they broker a tax deal a couple of yrs ago.
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