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Old 06-01-2018, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Maine
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That's not going to sell well to the general movie audience, unless they do a good tragedy and kill the main character or else turn his heart.
Not necessarily. Audiences can learn to love the bad guy. BREAKING BAD, BETTER CALL SAUL, THE SOPRANOS, DEXTER, HANNIBAL, etc. Though stories with such perspective probably shouldn't be geared toward the kids audience, which is what Lucasfilm seems to focus on almost exclusively.


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Disney needs to get completely away from the Skywalker saga and build on characters they've already developed for television.
Or better yet: Do new ones. And new plots. Not every story has to be about the Rebels fighting Tyrants. It's a big universe, with lots of room for lots of kinds of stories.
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Old 06-01-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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Rogue One and Solo were exactly where the Star Wars movies should have gone: Outside the Skywalker arc (that story was finished and trying to continue it resulted in 2 total garbage movies) and to tell all the TONS of cool stuff peripheral (and perhaps even unrelated) to that story line.

No coincidence that R1 and Solo were way better than The Forced Recycled and The Last Drek.
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Old 06-01-2018, 06:17 PM
 
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Or better yet: Do new ones. And new plots. Not every story has to be about the Rebels fighting Tyrants. It's a big universe, with lots of room for lots of kinds of stories.
I'm writing the Star Wars: Intergalactic Brothel movie if nobody else steps up.
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Old 06-02-2018, 03:45 PM
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No doubt it will most likely suck, but when is Salacious B. Crumb getting his stand alone movie?
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Old 06-03-2018, 12:54 PM
 
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Tropes happen: the High Noon flavor of Westerns; the Hero's Journey; the Good Guy/Girl (almost) always wins; material that never gets overly dark.

As far as film franchises based on books go, the movies based on Lord of the Rings proved very popular. Infinity War breaking records set by The Force Awakens shows there can be a cinematic franchise that is nearly as popular. Maybe Star Wars has had its day.
Yes but will any of those movies/franchises even come close to the long term popularity as star wars, over the course of many decades? That is something I doubt.
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Old 06-03-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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Yes but will any of those movies/franchises even come close to the long term popularity as star wars, over the course of many decades? That is something I doubt.
Marvel's, most likely. There was a 15-year gap between the OT and PT, too.
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Old 06-03-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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Or better yet: Do new ones. And new plots. Not every story has to be about the Rebels fighting Tyrants. It's a big universe, with lots of room for lots of kinds of stories.
I've said that myself.
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Old 06-03-2018, 05:47 PM
 
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Rogue One and Solo were exactly where the Star Wars movies should have gone: Outside the Skywalker arc (that story was finished and trying to continue it resulted in 2 total garbage movies) and to tell all the TONS of cool stuff peripheral (and perhaps even unrelated) to that story line.

No coincidence that R1 and Solo were way better than The Forced Recycled and The Last Drek.
I do agree that both Rogue One and Solo were definitely more enjoyable than TLJ, and more rewatcheable than TFA.
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Old 06-03-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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Yes but will any of those movies/franchises even come close to the long term popularity as star wars, over the course of many decades? That is something I doubt.
Do they need to? That may be an irrelevant criterion.

How much profit will the Marvel movies have made in 10 years compared to the profit collected by the first three Star Wars movies?
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:08 PM
 
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This is stupid. Giving Boba Fett an origin story is like making a spin off James Bond movie, of an Oddjob movie, and giving Oddjob an origin story. Would Bond fans really want to see that?
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