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Old 06-04-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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Oh okay, I haven't seen those accept for Leon The Professional, but I didn't think that one was heavy on it, cause the girl was into the adult man, but the adult man did not reciprocate it at all, and dismissed her crush, and didn't go for it at all, so I didn't think of it as heavy.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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Oh okay, I haven't seen those accept for Leon The Professional, but I didn't think that one was heavy on it, cause the girl was into the adult man, but the adult man did not reciprocate it at all, and dismissed her crush, and didn't go for it at all, so I didn't think of it as heavy.
She was portrayed in a sexualized manner, throughout. I thought he was struggling with being into it rather than NOT into it at all; her flirting with him and the dancing in black bra scene was just ugh.

Had the filmmakers wanted to portray an unrequited kiddie crush type thing I doubt they'd have shot/posed her as they did throughout and closeups of her face etc. Same with Pretty Baby. How the film is shot, camera angles, how the girl is posed not the plot itself are what I mean. Very obvious the girls are being presented provocatively.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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Oh okay. I thought a lot of those scenes of portrayal in Leon were played more for humor, but I found myself laughing at the movie, more than with it.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:50 PM
 
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Oh okay. I thought a lot of those scenes of portrayal in Leon were played more for humor, but I found myself laughing at the movie, more than with it.
This means you aren't a pervert

I'm a film "aficionado" and notice all detail BUT the portrayal was obvi I think.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:57 PM
 
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Oh okay, I thought that they were trying to show how she saw herself sexually, and that the audience was suppose to see it through her eyes, but I haven't seen this movie in like 10 years, since like high school almost, so I might see it totally differently now.

One movie I saw was Nymphomaniac, in which some people complained that the pedophilia scenario, was portrayed in not enough of a negative light and some people had a problem with that. I saw the movie but cannot remember the exact scene well though, but remember the complaints it got.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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Oh okay, I thought that they were trying to show how she saw herself sexually, and that the audience was suppose to see it through her eyes, but I haven't seen this movie in like 10 years, since like high school almost, so I might see it totally differently now.
I thought it was all kinds of creepy. Only one of the many reasons I disliked that movie. I don't understand what people see in it. It's like an R-rated cartoon that leaves you wanted to give your brain a shower afterward.
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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There was another, I think it may've been Dakota Fanning again, or a kid that looked like her, the main guy was a black actor, hired as her bodyguard I think?

I stopped watching after a scene wherein she said "do you have a girlfriend?". She was maybe...7 or 8. Children that age don't ask adult males they JUST MET (they'd been recently introduced) that q. Her tone/ facial expression when saying it was also ugh and seemed so unrealistic for a child for that age.

EDIT: film was "Man On Fire".
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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I didn't really like Leon either. It has some hearfelt touching moments in such as the ending, but my main problem was the villain, as I felt he was way too overacted and he ruined the movie for me on that alone. Gary Oldman is usually very good, and this was probably the director's fault.

As for the sexual portrayal of Matilda, it didn't stick in my memory enough to remember if it brought down the movie for me. The most I remember is the villain ruining it, and overshadowing all other problems. But that's a different discussion.

Perhaps if they were willing to explore the girls sexual attraction to adult man more thoroughly it could have had more depth, but then it wouldn't be an action movie, so they needed to pick one or the other and go with it, I guess.

My friend likes the movie, aside from the sexual potrayal he says, but her sexual portrayal is like 60% of the movie's content, so not sure there is much of a rest of it to like.
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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I didn't really like Leon either. It has some hearfelt touching moments in such as the ending, but my main problem was the villain, as I felt he was way too overacted and he ruined the movie for me on that alone. Gary Oldman is usually very good, and this was probably the director's fault.
Ditto. His character was just ridiculous in that movie. He was like Yosemite Sam's sleazy cousin.


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As for the sexual portrayal of Matilda, it didn't stick in my memory enough to remember if it brought down the movie for me.
It seemed pretty clear to me that the director was sexualized a young girl. And the creepy mail Natalie Portman received for years after makes me think he succeeded all too well.
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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Ditto. His character was just ridiculous in that movie. He was like Yosemite Sam's sleazy cousin.




It seemed pretty clear to me that the director was sexualized a young girl. And the creepy mail Natalie Portman received for years after makes me think he succeeded all too well.
Young Natalie Portman and Dakota Fanning are indeed favorites of the pedo freaks and discussed on pedo forums (I'm not one, I'm a computer geek with knowledge of this from other geeks who are into "deep web"/.Onion sites stuff). so yep they succeeded! No way those portrayals were accidental.

How messed up that their Mothers allowed this.
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