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Old 06-04-2018, 11:06 PM
 
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Oh okay. Well I looked it up and there doesn't seem to be any proof of an affair and it seems like it's all theories and rumors. Unless I am not looking in the right spots.
Back in the day, Ironpony, presidents had affairs and no one documented it with photographs or videos or whatever.

If you're looking for newspaper articles, you won't find it, because at one time media had enough decency not to report on bedroom behavior.
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:16 PM
 
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Well how is it that she got more fame based on a mere rumor then? Anyone can spread rumors. I mean if she wouldn't actually come out and say she had an affair, how is anyone suppose to be believe that she did? Again this just adds more to the confusion of why she got so big. I mean all I could find is that she came out of a cake at the birthday party and the two of them happen to be at the same big events a couple of times later on, but that is hardly enough to go on.


She is in the Asphalt Jungle though, which is a more serious crime drama. Was her acting better in that therefore?
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Florida Gulf Coast
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I was a kid then, but she was a HUGE sex-symbol and people were fascinated with her. It was the beginning of the (platinum) "blonde bombshell" era. Brigitte Bardot in France was another one, and Jayne Mansfield was kind of the trashier version of Monroe. I loved JFK and thought he could do no wrong. I remember being a little upset when Marilyn did that sexy rendition of Happy Birthday, because again, I thought he could do no wrong....had no idea what was going on behind the scenes.
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:24 PM
 
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I thought that JFK did not know she was in the cake and it was a surprise, and therefore, it's not his fault perhaps?? That is if he didn't have an affair. I mean all she did was come out of a cake and sing happy birthday for crying out loud, and people jump to extra marital affair conclusions.

Mansfield is another actress who I couldn't tell why guys thought she was so attractive, as her acting was just as bad as Munroe's. In fact her daugther, Marishka Hargitay is much more attractive in her acting, yet she is not considered near as much of a sex symbol as her Mom. Why is that?
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Old 06-05-2018, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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I thought that JFK did not know she was in the cake and it was a surprise, and therefore, it's not his fault perhaps?? That is if he didn't have an affair. I mean all she did was come out of a cake and sing happy birthday for crying out loud, and people jump to extra marital affair conclusions.

Mansfield is another actress who I couldn't tell why guys thought she was so attractive, as her acting was just as bad as Munroe's. In fact her daugther, Marishka Hargitay is much more attractive in her acting, yet she is not considered near as much of a sex symbol as her Mom. Why is that?
I'm sorry, but you come on here, soooo naive and asking so many questions yet you don't believe anything anyone actually FROM that era is telling you. Yes - like many millennials (or younger) you know nothing about anything before you were 10 years old and act like it was an alien time - you need some appreciation courses in art, literature, and media. Listen and learn
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Old 06-05-2018, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Texas or Cascais, Portugal
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check her out in Bus Stop. Monroe could act! And, her bimbo routine was just that, a routine. She was a bright woman, one who understood the times she was living in and how to maximize her assets.
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Old 06-05-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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Mansfield is another actress who I couldn't tell why guys thought she was so attractive, as her acting was just as bad as Munroe's.
Monroe's fame had little to do with her acting. The subway grate picture from "The Seven Year Itch" is still one of the most iconic photographs of that period. And it didn't hurt that the revered Joe DiMaggio, to whom she was briefly married, spent his entire life devoted to her, long after she died.

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/...-times-a-week/
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Old 06-05-2018, 06:47 AM
 
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So here you go. The first Miss America lineup of contestants, 1921. I believe the 3rd from the left won, at the age of 16.

Now maybe you'll stop deriding Marilyn Monroe. What a breath of fresh air she must have been, coming along 3 decades later!!

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...qED4MQ9QEILTAA
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Old 06-05-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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I thought that JFK did not know she was in the cake and it was a surprise, and therefore, it's not his fault perhaps?? That is if he didn't have an affair. I mean all she did was come out of a cake and sing happy birthday for crying out loud, and people jump to extra marital affair conclusions.

Mansfield is another actress who I couldn't tell why guys thought she was so attractive, as her acting was just as bad as Munroe's. In fact her daugther, Marishka Hargitay is much more attractive in her acting, yet she is not considered near as much of a sex symbol as her Mom. Why is that?
Her daughter spent almost her entire professional life playing a detective. Who for the most part did not go undercover as a "honey trap". Even in Mariska Hargitay's first regular role, when she was around 20 years old when many do the sexual role to jump start a career, as an ex convict working undercover as a police asset in a Miami Vice inspired show she was more tough street kid with little sexual tease that was part of her mother's professional rise.
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Under Moon & Star
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I don't mean to be insulting towards her as I am sure she was a very attractive woman for her time, and the majority seem to agree, but so far I have seen her in two movies. Gentlemen Prefer Blonds, and Some Like it Hot.

In those movies though, she acts very similar in both, and she plays a total bimbo, and plays the bimbo persona to a hilt. I think it takes away whatever attractiveness she has, unless of course people are going by how she was in real life, but you think that the characters she played would have some sort of an effect on how people viewed her attraction wise. But what do you think? I am seeing her the wrong way?
You really seem to have an issue with subjectivity. While there is some consensus on what is attractive and what is not, it is ultimately a matter of taste. So, too, is artistic appreciation of something such as acting and/or comedy. For example, in general I don't care for Scorsese films. However, it doesn't baffle me that others do.

There's also the fact that what tastes dominant a culture change with time. Acting changed dramatically just from the fifties to the seventies. It has changed a lot more up to the year 2018. What hasn't? Fashion, music, food, television, literature. What grabbed a silver screen audience in 1958 and made money hand over fist for that film's studio would likely be a bomb in the present. Monroe was targeting that 1958 audience, not film-watchers from over half a century in the future who's tastes could not be known.
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